On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:12:00 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea KirkPost by LionelOn Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:29:46 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea KirkPost by LionelOn Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:38:52 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea KirkPost by Kali[...]
Post by miguelPost by KaliPost by RespondantKnow what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the
*outrage* from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick
doesn't deny? Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should
have written Rick the riot act over such an egregious offense,
no?
Or at least scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's
"boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit like
that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
Where did I answer a rhetorical question? What you've written
below betrays your assertion that the question was rhetorical.
Post by miguelAccording to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a
friend whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way
that can only be construed as a gesture of territoriality and
possessiveness. It objectified her. It was degrading. You're
trying to minimize it for your own stupid reasons by
characterizing it as mere touching.
Who really cares, huh? Besides you, I mean.
And yet you, o uncaring one, continue to reply.
AUK was newgrouped for the express purpose of poking at loons,
Rodenta. You're a loon, therefore you're being poked.
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Post by Rhonda Lea KirkWhy would someone post about something she doesn't care about?
That's the question, Lionel.
The answer's right there in front of you, Bunny Boiler.
auk was newgrouped for the express purpose of /examining/ kooks, Lionel.
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As per discussion on alt.config alt.usenet.kooks has been created.
Usenet has more of its share of conspiracy theorists and kooks
and this group has been created for the discussion of these people.
Examples of their work will be posted here and it will be a meeting
place for kook-hunters to gather and swap stories and keep
one another up to date as to where the new budding kooks can
be found. It is hoped that through the careful use of the Followup
line, kooks can be lured into crossposting to alt.usenet.kooks.
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In other words, Rodenta, you're a clue-proof kook.
Post by Rhonda Lea KirkMore recently, however, the purpose has been perverted to /create/ kooks
by, and for the purpose of, recreational gang bullying.
You're a kook, & we're discussing you. Moreover, you have indeed been
lured into crossposting to alt.usenet.kooks, & you're too kooky to
spit out the hook.
And as for your demented claim that there's anything new about
Kookologists poking at kooks, feel free to look at the AUK posts in
which Craig Dickson - the person who created AUK - & many others from
the same era do exactly that:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&as_ugroup=alt.usenet.kooks&as_uauthors=crd%40netcom.com>
And the final piece de resistance, the original FAQ for AUK - note
especially the part about suckering one's kook into to posting to AUK
for the amusement of the other Kookologists - just as we're doing to
you. The only difference is that you're so fucking kooky that you
actually dived into AUK of your own accord.
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The alt.usenet.kooks FAQ
Last revised: 17 June 1994
by Craig Dickson (***@netcom.com)
To locate any article within this document, search for its table of
contents
label prefixed with a tilde. For example, to locate Frequently Asked
Question
3, search for "~(3)".
~(Contents)
Frequently Asked Questions
(1) What's this newsgroup for?
(2) Who is a net.kook?
(3) Can you give me a few examples?
(4) How do I present a kook on this group?
(5) What are the Kook of the Month (KotM) awards?
(6) Is alt.usenet.kooks archived anywhere?
(7) Where can I find out more about net.kooks?
Appendices
(A) The Kook of the Month awards
(B) Past Kook of the Month award winners
(C) Selected quotes from net.kooks of the past and present
(D) Changes
FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS
~(1) What's this newsgroup for?
alt.usenet.kooks is a newsgroup for the discovery and discussion of
kooks
who post to Usenet. These people are known technically as net.kooks.
~(2) Who is a net.kook?
Anyone who posts uniquely strange, preferably incomprehensible
articles, or
who manifests a persistent, extreme, and somewhat bizarre obsession,
might
be a net.kook. Most of the people described as "loons" in David
DeLaney's
net.legends FAQ are net.kooks; the reader is referred to that document
for
additional insight on this question.
It is important to note the subtle distinction between a net.kook, a
net.cretin, and a clueless newbie. The newbie, one hopes, can acquire
a
clue on the installment plan even if he can't afford to buy one for
cash;
the cretin is merely stupid and/or irritating; but a true net.kook has
a
special fascination derived from his or her utter ineffability. Their
behavior is irrational, if not downright weird, but they are seldom
merely
boring.
It is not considered appropriate to nominate clueless newbies as
net.kooks.
It is acceptable to nominate net.cretins, or simply to present them,
without
nomination, for whatever minor amusement value they may have; but the
real
focus here is on net.kooks in all their raging, indomitable glory.
Important Disclaimer: the fact that someone has been proclaimed a
net.kook
does not imply any psychological diagnosis in and of itself. A
net.kook
may or may not be clinically insane; that is not the concern of the
a.u.k
audience.
~(3) Can you give me a few examples?
I'd rather not, but it may help to clarify things... The person who
posted
a handful of meaningless, ill-formed newgroups on 5/21/94 was a
clueless
newbie. The person who hung around alt.religion.kibology during April
and
May 1994, constantly posting boilerplate "warning" messages telling
people
that a.r.k messages were intentionally meaningless, was a net.cretin.
The
people who post demented "scientific" theories and seem invulnerable
to
criticism are moderate net.kooks. The sort of person who constantly
raves
about the conspiracy against it is an extreme net.kook, especially if
it
automatically assumes that anyone who questions its world-view is an
agent
of the conspirators.
~(4) How do I present a kook on this group?
The preferred technique is to get the suspected kook to start posting
to
a.u.k so that we can all see it in action first-hand. You can do this
by
posting followups to the suspect's weirder messages, with your
followups
nonchalantly cross-posted to a.u.k. If the suspect responds to your
messages
without editing the Newsgroups line, you've achieved your goal.
Another acceptable method is to repost, complete and unedited, one or
two
of the suspected kook's recent postings. If you do this, please
provide
a brief intro at the top of the message indicating who this person is,
what
group you found the message on, and why you think the rest of us will
find
it interesting.
You should be aware that if you try this with some perfectly
reasonable
posting, you may be suspected of being a net.kook yourself. It is also
considered extremely lame to nominate someone as a kook simply because
you
have lost, or at least failed to win, a debate with it; that someone
fails
to perceive the self-evident, unassailable wisdom of your viewpoint
does
not, in and of itself, constitute kookery.
~(5) What are the Kook of the Month (KotM) awards?
Every month special recognition is given to one person whose kookery
is
judged to have surpassed all others. This is the Kook of the Month
Award,
voted (somewhat informally) by the a.u.k audience. See Appendix A of
this
document for the full story on this great honor.
~(6) Is alt.usenet.kooks archived anywhere?
Not to my knowledge. A list of Kook of the Month winners is contained
in
Appendix B of this document; sample postings from each awardee and
each of
the current month's nominees are stored at
ftp://ftp.netcom.com:/pub/crd.
The current version of this FAQ and David DeLaney's net.legends FAQ
are also
available there.
~(7) Where can I find out more about net.kooks?
Several mini-FAQs on classic kooks of the past and present (along with
several
non-kooky legendary netters) are available on the World Wide Web in
the
alt.folklore.urban archives. The URL for the net.legends subdirectory
is
gopher://dixie.aiss.uiuc.edu:6969/11/urban.legends/net.legends. This
material
is also available for anon-ftp at cathouse.org.
APPENDICES
~(A) The Kook of the Month awards
Every month since April 1994, the readers of alt.usenet.kooks have
nominated
and voted for a Kook of the Month. This award is intended to recognize
great
achievements in the field of kookery, although (DISCLAIMER) no
psychological
diagnosis is intended or implied by the award; the fact that a group
of
net.posters think that someone's postings are bizarre does not imply
that
that person is mentally disturbed in a clinical sense.
Aside from a few limitations given below, anyone can nominate anyone
else for
Kook of the Month. (You cannot nominate or vote for yourself because
the award
is not intended as an ego trip.) To be accepted, the nomination must
be
seconded by another person, and at least one unedited sample posting
from the
nominee must be posted to a.u.k. The only exception to these
requirements is
"None of the Above", which is always on the ballot and wins by default
if no
nominee receives at least 50% of the votes cast. Votes are collected
all
through the month, and at the end of the month I tally up the results
and
formally declare a Kook of the Month. Votes are cast by mailing them
to
***@netcom.com or posting them to a.u.k. The latter method is
slightly risky,
because it's always possible that I might miss your posting.
To keep things from spiraling out of control, each a.u.k poster is
limited
to one nomination per month. If you find a better candidate
subsequently,
you may withdraw your prior nomination in order to nominate the other
one.
This change of nomination may be done only once per month; the
reasoning
again being to keep the situation from becoming too confused.
Eligibility limitations:
No one is eligible for Kook of the Month who
(1a) has not posted any Usenet articles during the current
month;
(1b) is not well-known on at least one Usenet newsgroup;
(1c) is a previous KotM winner;
(1d) was nominated and seconded for KotM in the previous
month.
No one may nominate or vote for Kook of the Month who
(2a) is a previous KotM winner.
The reasoning behind (1a) and (1b) are pretty obvious, If you're
wondering
about (1c) and (1d), well, basically, the idea is that we don't want a
small
group of well-known kooks to keep winning the award over and over, or
to
be a constant presence in the nominations. So we limit eligibility:
you
can only win once, and you can't be nominated two months in a row.
(2a) is intended to prevent known kooks from subverting the awards
process.
To be completely clear, I should point out that *anyone* is welcome to
bring kooks to the attention of the a.u.k audience. It is only in the
formal nomination and voting that past KotM's are disallowed.
A question has also been raised as to the eligibility of net.kooks who
post
their kooky material only to regional newsgroups with limited
propagation.
The answer is, no, but if you can get them out into the open, then
yes. The
technique of engaging them in public debate crossposted between their
regional group and worldwide groups can do this quite nicely. In such
cases,
it is recommended that the thread be crossposted to a.u.k and one or
two
relevant groups (e.g., sci.skeptic for psychics, alt.alien.visitors
for UFO
contactees, alt.politics.homosexuality for gay-bashers), for two
reasons:
(a) to ensure that we can see the show, and (b) to maximize the
possibility
of a debate that lasts for at least a few days to give us a more
complete
picture of the nominee's personality.
~(B) Past Kook of the Month award winners
April 1994 Mark Line (***@henson.cc.wwu.edu) rec.org.mensa
May 1994 Andrew W. Beckwith (***@andrew.cmu.edu) alt.flame
~(C) Selected quotes from net.kooks of the past and present
Abian, Alexander (sci.astro): "I am almost convinced that in our Milky
Way
galaxy, at least within several billion billion miles, there is no
Planet
populated by homosapiens."
Beckwith, Andrew W. [KotM 5/94] (a.u.k): "I did not self spank myself
off!"
(a.u.k): "It is a substainable annoyance."
Detweiler, L. (cypherpunks list): "I have noticed an interesting
overlap
between radical libertarians, crypto-anarchists, psychopunks, and
people
who promote sodomy."
Line, Mark [KotM 4/94] (rec.org.mensa): "We will not allow yourselves
to be
bludgeoned!"
McElwaine, Robert E. (from .sig): "UN-altered REPRODUCTION and
DISSEMINATION
of this IMPORTANT information is ENCOURAGED!"
(comp.misc) "The UPC bar-codes are probably the most blatant form of
the
"MARK OF THE BEA$T" so far, with the "NUMBER OF THE BEA$T", 666,
ALREADY
CODED INTO THEM."
Stollman, Gary (alt.alien.visitors): "I was FORCED into ALL those
mental
hospitals by this government, which I am going to SUE TO HIGH
HEAVEN, and
by enemies who can read minds, etc..."
~(D) Changes
17 Jun 1994: "None of the Above" added to the KotM ballot.
--
Craig Dickson (***@netcom.com) a.k.a. "*ibo": a collector of
net.butterflies.
Keeper, alt.usenet.kooks FAQ. Coordinator, Kook of the Month Awards
(a.u.k).
KotM archives, a.u.k FAQ, and net.legends FAQ:
ftp://ftp.netcom.com:/pub/crd.
"This may make me a megalomaniac putz": Roger "Fouck you all" Bryner
6/12/94.
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