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miguel
2007-04-24 15:19:30 UTC
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There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove a
negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads the world over
just like yourself when you're caught in a bind. Your idiotic statement
amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't
prove me wrong because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.

I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there would
be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.

You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were through
a keyboard.
Lionel
2007-04-24 15:36:40 UTC
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Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove a
negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads the world over
just like yourself when you're caught in a bind. Your idiotic statement
amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't
prove me wrong because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there would
be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were through
a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present at
either end of the conversation.
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
. | ,. w ,
\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
miguel
2007-04-24 15:55:57 UTC
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Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove a
negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads the world over
just like yourself when you're caught in a bind. Your idiotic statement
amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't
prove me wrong because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there would
be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were through
a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present at
either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
Kadaitcha Man
2007-04-24 16:07:50 UTC
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Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove
a negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads
the world over just like yourself when you're caught in a bind.
Your idiotic statement amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm
right, you're wrong, and you can't prove me wrong because I don't
know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there
would be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were
through a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present
at either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
I am also free to not give even the remotest validation to the emtionally
abusive stalking tactics of a bunny-boiler.
--
alt.usenet.kooks
"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

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miguel
2007-04-24 16:24:20 UTC
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Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove
a negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads
the world over just like yourself when you're caught in a bind.
Your idiotic statement amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm
right, you're wrong, and you can't prove me wrong because I don't
know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there
would be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were
through a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present
at either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
I am also free to not give even the remotest validation to the emtionally
abusive stalking tactics of a bunny-boiler.
http://tinyurl.com/psuhs

bagaaaaaaaaaak!
Kadaitcha Man
2007-04-24 16:31:30 UTC
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Post by miguel
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to
prove a negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of
fuckheads the world over just like yourself when you're caught
in a bind. Your idiotic statement amounts to nothing more than
saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't prove me wrong
because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can
prove its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that
there would be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such
a gesture occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were
through a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present
at either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
I am also free to not give even the remotest validation to the
emtionally abusive stalking tactics of a bunny-boiler.
http://tinyurl.com/psuhs
bagaaaaaaaaaak!
<aside>
I must've pulled that last knot in crasston's neck a bit too tight.
--
alt.usenet.kooks
"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

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Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.
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DaRkAnGeL
2007-04-25 03:18:28 UTC
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Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to
prove a negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of
fuckheads the world over just like yourself when you're caught
in a bind. Your idiotic statement amounts to nothing more than
saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't prove me wrong
because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can
prove its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that
there would be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such
a gesture occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were
through a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present
at either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
I am also free to not give even the remotest validation to the
emtionally abusive stalking tactics of a bunny-boiler.
http://tinyurl.com/psuhs
bagaaaaaaaaaak!
<aside>
I must've pulled that last knot in crasston's neck a bit too tight.
Or, considering that he was able to breathe, not tight enough.
HTH!
--
---
DarkAngel
"Making the world a little bit darker, one life at a time, since 1975!"
Kadaitcha Man
2007-04-25 04:49:32 UTC
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Post by DaRkAnGeL
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to
prove a negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of
fuckheads the world over just like yourself when you're caught
in a bind. Your idiotic statement amounts to nothing more than
saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't prove me wrong
because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can
prove its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that
there would be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such
a gesture occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were
through a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually
present at either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
I am also free to not give even the remotest validation to the
emtionally abusive stalking tactics of a bunny-boiler.
http://tinyurl.com/psuhs
bagaaaaaaaaaak!
<aside>
I must've pulled that last knot in crasston's neck a bit too tight.
Or, considering that he was able to breathe, not tight enough.
Damn! I knew I should have used plastic wrap. I forgot about most amphibians
being able to breathe through their skin.
Post by DaRkAnGeL
HTH!
--
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"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

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Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.
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Lionel
2007-04-24 16:11:11 UTC
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Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove a
negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads the world over
just like yourself when you're caught in a bind. Your idiotic statement
amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't
prove me wrong because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there would
be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were through
a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present at
either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
Um, no, it doesn't work like that, dog-fucker. Are you, Michael J.
Cranston - a licensed attorney in Washington State - seriously
claiming not know what the term 'hearsay' means? Or the term 'burden
of proof'? Hell, do you even know what the terms 'accusation',
'evidence' & 'proof' mean?
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
. | ,. w ,
\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Kadaitcha Man
2007-04-24 16:20:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to
prove a negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of
fuckheads the world over just like yourself when you're caught in
a bind. Your idiotic statement amounts to nothing more than
saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't prove me wrong
because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there
would be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a
gesture occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were
through a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present
at either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
Um, no, it doesn't work like that, dog-fucker. Are you, Michael J.
Cranston - a licensed attorney in Washington State - seriously
claiming not know what the term 'hearsay' means? Or the term 'burden
of proof'? Hell, do you even know what the terms 'accusation',
'evidence' & 'proof' mean?
Shut the fuck up, Lionel. He asked for negotiations. I've demanded
$US20,000,000. I'll see you get five.
--
alt.usenet.kooks
"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

Hammer of Thor: February 2007. Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook,
Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007.
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Lionel
2007-04-24 16:42:53 UTC
Permalink
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:05:10 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to
prove a negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of
fuckheads the world over just like yourself when you're caught in
a bind. Your idiotic statement amounts to nothing more than
saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't prove me wrong
because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there
would be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a
gesture occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were
through a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present
at either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
Um, no, it doesn't work like that, dog-fucker. Are you, Michael J.
Cranston - a licensed attorney in Washington State - seriously
claiming not know what the term 'hearsay' means? Or the term 'burden
of proof'? Hell, do you even know what the terms 'accusation',
'evidence' & 'proof' mean?
Shut the fuck up, Lionel. He asked for negotiations. I've demanded
$US20,000,000. I'll see you get five.
You're on. Mffppfmmffmfmmfmfmfmmfmmfm.
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
. | ,. w ,
\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Kadaitcha Man
2007-04-24 16:49:47 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:05:10 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to
prove a negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of
fuckheads the world over just like yourself when you're caught
in a bind. Your idiotic statement amounts to nothing more than
saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't prove me wrong
because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can
prove its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that
there would be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such
a gesture occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were
through a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually
present at either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
Um, no, it doesn't work like that, dog-fucker. Are you, Michael J.
Cranston - a licensed attorney in Washington State - seriously
claiming not know what the term 'hearsay' means? Or the term 'burden
of proof'? Hell, do you even know what the terms 'accusation',
'evidence' & 'proof' mean?
Shut the fuck up, Lionel. He asked for negotiations. I've demanded
$US20,000,000. I'll see you get five.
You're on. Mffppfmmffmfmmfmfmfmmfmmfm.
It may be too late, mate. You may have already stepped into his territory.
We'll see. I'll send you the five bucks anyway.
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RagingHomoIsOwned
2007-04-24 17:39:21 UTC
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Post by Lionel
On Tue, 24 Apr 2007 22:05:10 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to
prove a negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of
fuckheads the world over just like yourself when you're caught in
a bind. Your idiotic statement amounts to nothing more than
saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't prove me wrong
because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there
would be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a
gesture occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were
through a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present
at either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
Um, no, it doesn't work like that, dog-fucker. Are you, Michael J.
Cranston - a licensed attorney in Washington State - seriously
claiming not know what the term 'hearsay' means? Or the term 'burden
of proof'? Hell, do you even know what the terms 'accusation',
'evidence' & 'proof' mean?
Shut the fuck up, Lionel. He asked for negotiations. I've demanded
$US20,000,000. I'll see you get five.
You're on. Mffppfmmffmfmmfmfmfmmfmmfm.
Is that the sound of you gagging on c0ck, Loonel? Or the sound of you
choking the life out of yer mommy
miguel
2007-04-24 16:28:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove a
negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads the world over
just like yourself when you're caught in a bind. Your idiotic statement
amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't
prove me wrong because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there would
be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were through
a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present at
either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
Um, no, it doesn't work like that, dog-fucker. Are you, Michael J.
Cranston - a licensed attorney in Washington State - seriously
claiming not know what the term 'hearsay' means? Or the term 'burden
of proof'? Hell, do you even know what the terms 'accusation',
'evidence' & 'proof' mean?
Oh ho! I'm being schooled in law by a Fagboi in a Leather Corset!

Okay, fagboi, I passed a test that shows I know what all of those
things mean. So why don't you try to describe for me in your own words
what "hearsay" means? No cheating now, fagboi.
Lionel
2007-04-24 16:47:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove a
negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads the world over
just like yourself when you're caught in a bind. Your idiotic statement
amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't
prove me wrong because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there would
be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were through
a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present at
either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
Um, no, it doesn't work like that, dog-fucker. Are you, Michael J.
Cranston - a licensed attorney in Washington State - seriously
claiming not know what the term 'hearsay' means? Or the term 'burden
of proof'? Hell, do you even know what the terms 'accusation',
'evidence' & 'proof' mean?
Oh ho! I'm being schooled in law by a Fagboi in a Leather Corset!
Okay, fagboi, I passed a test that shows I know what all of those
things mean. So why don't you try to describe for me in your own words
what "hearsay" means? No cheating now, fagboi.
If you passed a test in that shit, & you haven't since become senile
or undergone a major head injury, what's your excuse for your various
ridiculous k'lames about Rodenta's hysterical suicide threats?
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
. | ,. w ,
\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
RagingHomoIsOwned
2007-04-24 17:37:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove a
negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads the world over
just like yourself when you're caught in a bind. Your idiotic statement
amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't
prove me wrong because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there would
be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were through
a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present at
either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
Um, no, it doesn't work like that, dog-fucker. Are you, Michael J.
Cranston - a licensed attorney in Washington State - seriously
claiming not know what the term 'hearsay' means? Or the term 'burden
of proof'? Hell, do you even know what the terms 'accusation',
'evidence' & 'proof' mean?
Oh ho! I'm being schooled in law by a Fagboi in a Leather Corset!
Okay, fagboi, I passed a test that shows I know what all of those
things mean. So why don't you try to describe for me in your own words
what "hearsay" means? No cheating now, fagboi.
If you passed a test in that shit, & you haven't since become senile
or undergone a major head injury, what's your excuse for your various
ridiculous k'lames about Rodenta's hysterical suicide threats?
Do you enjoy being c0ckslapped by miguel, Loonel?

Sucks to be the kangaroo c0cksucking Loonel, eh?
miguel
2007-04-24 18:39:10 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove a
negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads the world over
just like yourself when you're caught in a bind. Your idiotic statement
amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't
prove me wrong because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there would
be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were through
a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present at
either end of the conversation.
Don't I though. Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions.
Um, no, it doesn't work like that, dog-fucker. Are you, Michael J.
Cranston - a licensed attorney in Washington State - seriously
claiming not know what the term 'hearsay' means? Or the term 'burden
of proof'? Hell, do you even know what the terms 'accusation',
'evidence' & 'proof' mean?
Oh ho! I'm being schooled in law by a Fagboi in a Leather Corset!
Okay, fagboi, I passed a test that shows I know what all of those
things mean. So why don't you try to describe for me in your own words
what "hearsay" means? No cheating now, fagboi.
If you passed a test in that shit, & you haven't since become senile
or undergone a major head injury, what's your excuse for your various
ridiculous k'lames about Rodenta's hysterical suicide threats?
What's "hearsay," fagboi?
miguel
2007-04-24 18:47:42 UTC
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Pierced flamboyant big-girl with vapid broom and rotten
hinder-entrance aches for dinky muffin butterer for overwhelming
WhyDidLoonelKillHisMommy
2007-04-24 18:27:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove a
negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads the world over
just like yourself when you're caught in a bind. Your idiotic statement
amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm right, you're wrong, and you can't
prove me wrong because I don't know what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I can't prove the non-existence of an event. However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there would
be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were through
a keyboard.
You speak with such certitude for a man who wasn't actually present at
either end of the conversation.
He knows yer ilk Loonel. He broke open the story about you being a
tranny in a leather corset. Remember b1tch
Kadaitcha Man
2007-04-24 15:47:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove a
negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads the
world over just like yourself when you're caught in a bind. Your
idiotic statement amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm right,
you're wrong, and you can't prove me wrong because I don't know what
the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I'll accept your admission to both being outwitted, yet again, and not
knowing basic maths until I taught it to you. It must really suck to be you.
Post by miguel
I can't prove the non-existence of an event.
But you can assert that the event did not take place. How strange. You
must've failed Logic 101 as well as Maths 1+1, crasston. An alternative
interpretation is that you're so full of bullshit that your eyes haven't
seen the light of day in five or more decades.
Post by miguel
However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there would
be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were through
a keyboard.
So what, fuckchop? If, for the sake of argument only, one of your clients
came to you and said "Crime X took place", do you then get on the phone or
send an email to the alleged perpetrator and ask them to prove or disprove
your client's assertion? No doubt you're fucking dumb enough. That would
explain why you only charge a beggarly $200 an hour, you worthless piece of
shit.

You are a truly incompetent blockhead, crasston, and you prove that every
time you post.
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Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

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miguel
2007-04-24 16:09:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove a
negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads the
world over just like yourself when you're caught in a bind. Your
idiotic statement amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm right,
you're wrong, and you can't prove me wrong because I don't know what
the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I'll accept your admission to both being outwitted, yet again, and not
knowing basic maths until I taught it to you. It must really suck to be you.
You declare victory more often than Steve Chaney ever did.
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
I can't prove the non-existence of an event.
But you can assert that the event did not take place. How strange. You
must've failed Logic 101 as well as Maths 1+1, crasston. An alternative
interpretation is that you're so full of bullshit that your eyes haven't
seen the light of day in five or more decades.
Guess what's behind door number 3?
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there would
be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were through
a keyboard.
So what, fuckchop? If, for the sake of argument only, one of your clients
came to you and said "Crime X took place", do you then get on the phone or
send an email to the alleged perpetrator and ask them to prove or disprove
your client's assertion? No doubt you're fucking dumb enough. That would
explain why you only charge a beggarly $200 an hour, you worthless piece of
shit.
Yes, sometimes I do. It comes by way of settlement demand, usually.
Please enter negotiations to settle this dispute or else provide me
with information suggesting you aren't liable.

This is customary practice for pretty much every litigator, I believe.
Post by Kadaitcha Man
You are a truly incompetent blockhead, crasston, and you prove that every
time you post.
Yet you keep coming back with more foam. What's that about?
Kadaitcha Man
2007-04-24 16:18:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by miguel
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove
a negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads the
world over just like yourself when you're caught in a bind. Your
idiotic statement amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm right,
you're wrong, and you can't prove me wrong because I don't know
what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I'll accept your admission to both being outwitted, yet again, and
not knowing basic maths until I taught it to you. It must really
suck to be you.
You declare victory more often than Steve Chaney ever did.
A statement of the fucking obvious is not a declaration of victory,
chopfuck.
Post by miguel
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
I can't prove the non-existence of an event.
But you can assert that the event did not take place. How strange.
You must've failed Logic 101 as well as Maths 1+1, crasston. An
alternative interpretation is that you're so full of bullshit that
your eyes haven't seen the light of day in five or more decades.
Guess what's behind door number 3?
This:

You: "I can't prove the non-existence of an event."

You a few minutes later: "Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions."

Do you honestly believe that anyone is as stupid as you, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there
would be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were
through a keyboard.
So what, fuckchop? If, for the sake of argument only, one of your
clients came to you and said "Crime X took place", do you then get
on the phone or send an email to the alleged perpetrator and ask
them to prove or disprove your client's assertion? No doubt you're
fucking dumb enough. That would explain why you only charge a
beggarly $200 an hour, you worthless piece of shit.
Yes, sometimes I do. It comes by way of settlement demand, usually.
Please enter negotiations to settle this dispute or else provide me
with information suggesting you aren't liable.
Sure, send me a cashiers cheque for twenty million US dollars and I'll admit
to everything and anything.
Post by miguel
This is customary practice for pretty much every litigator, I believe.
Really? You don't have police forces and crime squads in the boondocks where
you ply your trade as a worthless whore then?
Post by miguel
Post by Kadaitcha Man
You are a truly incompetent blockhead, crasston, and you prove that
every time you post.
Yet you keep coming back with more foam. What's that about?
Since when has my tightening up of the knots you constantly tie your neck in
been classed as frothing, crasston?
--
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"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

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miguel
2007-04-24 17:57:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
There was no suicidal gesture.
And you know that how exactly, crasston?
Feel free to prove me wrong, psycho.
Why would I do that, snotfuck, when it was you who made the
assertion? Hmmm? And you're supposed to be clever, right?
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA! Pig's fucking arse you are.
You're asking me to prove a negative, Einstein?
You utter fucktard cunt, crasston. Your "You're asking me to prove
a negative" line is merely a rerun of the catchcry of fuckheads the
world over just like yourself when you're caught in a bind. Your
idiotic statement amounts to nothing more than saying "I'm right,
you're wrong, and you can't prove me wrong because I don't know
what the fuck I'm blabbering on about."
One does not equal two.
Basic fucking maths, cuntard.
My next child does not exist.
My third leg does not exist.
My siamese twin does not exist.
My third kidney does not exist.
Horses do not have six legs.
Leonardo Da Vinci did not watch TV.
A packet of 20 cigarettes does not contain 50 cigarettes.
Mary Queen of Scots is not my mother.
Isambard Kingdom Brunel is not my auntie.
The sixth finger on the hand of my middle arm does not exist.
Nice try at diversion. Not really.
I'll accept your admission to both being outwitted, yet again, and
not knowing basic maths until I taught it to you. It must really
suck to be you.
You declare victory more often than Steve Chaney ever did.
A statement of the fucking obvious is not a declaration of victory,
chopfuck.
Here's a tip: once in awhile let your readers decide for themselves
who's winning and who's losing. That way you won't look so desperate
for approval and victolly.
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
I can't prove the non-existence of an event.
But you can assert that the event did not take place. How strange.
You must've failed Logic 101 as well as Maths 1+1, crasston. An
alternative interpretation is that you're so full of bullshit that
your eyes haven't seen the light of day in five or more decades.
Guess what's behind door number 3?
You: "I can't prove the non-existence of an event."
You a few minutes later: "Psick Pfreak is free to disprove my assertions."
Do you honestly believe that anyone is as stupid as you, crasston?
If you received email from RL that can reasonably be construed as the
equivalent of a suicidal gesture, all you have to do is ask RL for
permission to post it, and that would clear up this matter quite
nicely.

But you won't, because you know there's no such email. Instead, you're
trying to stake out the moral highground -- imagine that, a psick
pfreak psycho pstalker like you claiming the moral highground!
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
However, you can prove
its existence. If there is any evidence. And we know that there
would be evidence of Rhonda Lea's suicidal gesture if such a gesture
occurred.
You weren't talking on the phone. All your communications were
through a keyboard.
So what, fuckchop? If, for the sake of argument only, one of your
clients came to you and said "Crime X took place", do you then get
on the phone or send an email to the alleged perpetrator and ask
them to prove or disprove your client's assertion? No doubt you're
fucking dumb enough. That would explain why you only charge a
beggarly $200 an hour, you worthless piece of shit.
Yes, sometimes I do. It comes by way of settlement demand, usually.
Please enter negotiations to settle this dispute or else provide me
with information suggesting you aren't liable.
Sure, send me a cashiers cheque for twenty million US dollars and I'll admit
to everything and anything.
So we're just haggling about your price now?
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
This is customary practice for pretty much every litigator, I believe.
Really? You don't have police forces and crime squads in the boondocks where
you ply your trade as a worthless whore then?
I don't practice criminal law.
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
Post by Kadaitcha Man
You are a truly incompetent blockhead, crasston, and you prove that
every time you post.
Yet you keep coming back with more foam. What's that about?
Since when has my tightening up of the knots you constantly tie your neck in
been classed as frothing, crasston?
Another Psick Pfreak Psycho Pstalker Victolly!
Kadaitcha Man
2007-04-24 18:08:31 UTC
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Here's a plonk, pretty boy.
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miguel
2007-04-24 18:59:43 UTC
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Post by Kadaitcha Man
Here's a plonk, pretty boy.
Brave Psir Psycho!
miguel
2007-04-24 15:50:25 UTC
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And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't possibly
prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.

All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission, then
the two situations are not comparable.

This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about posting
one's own email.
miguel
2007-04-24 16:19:03 UTC
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Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't possibly
prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission, then
the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about posting
one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell bent on
exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on usenet,
psycho.

But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary premise
that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the police
reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.

The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are aware
there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind your
ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
miguel
2007-04-24 18:10:17 UTC
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Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever it
was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell bent
on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on usenet,
psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary premise
that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the police
reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are aware
there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind your
ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles override
everything in my world view except survival instinct. In other words, I
refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you are free to draw any
conclusion you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?

Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?

She would be authorizing it.

Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.

How about it, psycho?
Respondant
2007-04-24 18:31:27 UTC
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Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no,
crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary premise
that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the police
reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has "principles" and
a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted to grabbing Rhonda's
breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no less) and continuing to smoke
cigarettes while being asthmatic.

HTH ROFL

Bill
Kadaitcha Man
2007-04-24 18:36:43 UTC
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Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary premise
that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the police
reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted
to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no
less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Who said I was asthmatic? Who said I smoke?
--
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"We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us."
Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129]

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Respondant
2007-04-24 18:39:04 UTC
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Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
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Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted
to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no
less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Who said I was asthmatic? Who said I smoke?
I did. Am I wrong?

Bill
Lachlan Disharson
2007-04-24 18:49:13 UTC
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Post by Respondant
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or
whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive
permission, then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding
behind your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email
from you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a
suicidal gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted
to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no
less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Who said I was asthmatic? Who said I smoke?
I did. Am I wrong?
Usenet is all about bullshit so I could be bullshitting you no matter what I
said.
miguel
2007-04-25 14:19:03 UTC
Permalink
Post by Respondant
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or
whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive
permission, then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding
behind your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and
principles override everything in my world view except survival
instinct. In other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to
yours, thus you are free to draw any conclusion you like,
crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email
from you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a
suicidal gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized
and you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal
gesture. How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly
admitted to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a
stranger, no less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being
asthmatic. HTH ROFL
Who said I was asthmatic? Who said I smoke?
I did. Am I wrong?
I said he is asthmatic.
Un-fucking-believable. Nothing is beyond you. Nothing at all.
Which of your principles does this violate, wheezer?

It's all right to lie about Rhonda Lea in public, but it's forbidden
to tell the truth about Rick Mather in private?

What kind of crazy moral code is that?
miguel
2007-04-24 19:21:42 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 00:21:43 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary premise
that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the police
reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted
to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no
less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Who said I was asthmatic? Who said I smoke?
No comment about the titty grab. Yer a classy guy Rick!
miguel
2007-04-24 19:08:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary premise
that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the police
reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has "principles" and
a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted to grabbing Rhonda's
breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no less) and continuing to smoke
cigarettes while being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Hard to figure, you're damn right.
Respondant
2007-04-24 19:33:37 UTC
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Post by miguel
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted
to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no
less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Hard to figure, you're damn right.
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage* from AUK
over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or
some other armchair shrink should have written Rick the riot act over such
an egregious offense, no? Or at least scolded him in public for not
respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit
like that, no?

Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
Kali
2007-04-25 06:13:55 UTC
Permalink
In <o46dnROFx7hlxrPbnZ2dnUVZ_v-***@comcast.com>, Respondant
***@noemail.none said:
: miguel wrote:
: > Respondant wrote:
: >> miguel wrote:
: >>> Psick Pfreak Psycho Pstalker:
: >>>> miguel:
: >
: >>>>> Groups restored
: >
: >>>> Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
: >
: >>>>> Psick Pfreak Psycho Pstalker:
: >>>>>> miguel:
: >>>>>>> Psick Pfreak Psycho Pstalker:
: >>>>>>>> miguel:
: >
: >>>>>>>>>> And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
: >>>>>>>>>> possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
: >>>>>>>>>> it was).
: >
: >>>>>>>>> All he as to do is ask for permission.
: >
: >>>>>>>> My slip is showing, madam.
: >
: >>>>>>> Corrected.
: >
: >>>>>>>>> But he won't do that, because
: >>>>>>>>> that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
: >
: >>>>>>>> Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
: >>>>>>>> bunny-boiler did."
: >
: >>>>>>> Your logic circuits are failing.
: >
: >>>>>> Corrected.
: >
: >>>>>>> All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
: >>>>>>> then the two situations are not comparable.
: >
: >>>>>>> This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
: >>>>>>> posting one's own email.
: >
: >>>>>> What in particular do you not understand about the word no,
: >>>>>> crasston?
: >
: >>>>>> I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
: >>>>>> bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
: >
: >>>>> It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
: >>>>> usenet, psycho.
: >
: >>>>> But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
: >>>>> premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
: >>>>> police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
: >
: >>>>> The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
: >>>>> aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
: >>>>> your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
: >
: >>>> Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
: >>>> override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
: >>>> other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
: >>>> are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
: >
: >>>> If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
: >
: >>>> HTH
: >
: >>> Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
: >>> you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
: >>> gesture, may he have permission to post it?
: >
: >>> Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
: >>> unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
: >
: >>> She would be authorizing it.
: >
: >>> Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
: >>> you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
: >
: >>> How about it, psycho?
: >
: >> I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
: >> "principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted
: >> to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no
: >> less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being asthmatic.
: >
: >> HTH ROFL
: >
: > Hard to figure, you're damn right.
:
: Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage* from AUK
: over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or
: some other armchair shrink should have written Rick the riot act over such
: an egregious offense, no? Or at least scolded him in public for not
: respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit
: like that, no?
:
: Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.

The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.

Kali
--
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research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein
Lionel
2007-04-25 06:47:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kali
: >
: >>>>> Groups restored
: >
: >>>> Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
: >
: >
: >>>>>>>>>> And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
: >>>>>>>>>> possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
: >>>>>>>>>> it was).
: >
: >>>>>>>>> All he as to do is ask for permission.
: >
: >>>>>>>> My slip is showing, madam.
: >
: >>>>>>> Corrected.
: >
: >>>>>>>>> But he won't do that, because
: >>>>>>>>> that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
: >
: >>>>>>>> Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
: >>>>>>>> bunny-boiler did."
: >
: >>>>>>> Your logic circuits are failing.
: >
: >>>>>> Corrected.
: >
: >>>>>>> All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
: >>>>>>> then the two situations are not comparable.
: >
: >>>>>>> This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
: >>>>>>> posting one's own email.
: >
: >>>>>> What in particular do you not understand about the word no,
: >>>>>> crasston?
: >
: >>>>>> I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
: >>>>>> bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
: >
: >>>>> It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
: >>>>> usenet, psycho.
: >
: >>>>> But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
: >>>>> premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
: >>>>> police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
: >
: >>>>> The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
: >>>>> aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
: >>>>> your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
: >
: >>>> Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
: >>>> override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
: >>>> other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
: >>>> are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
: >
: >>>> If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
: >
: >>>> HTH
: >
: >>> Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
: >>> you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
: >>> gesture, may he have permission to post it?
: >
: >>> Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
: >>> unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
: >
: >>> She would be authorizing it.
: >
: >>> Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
: >>> you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
: >
: >>> How about it, psycho?
: >
: >> I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
: >> "principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted
: >> to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no
: >> less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being asthmatic.
: >
: >> HTH ROFL
: >
: > Hard to figure, you're damn right.
: Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage* from AUK
: over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or
: some other armchair shrink should have written Rick the riot act over such
: an egregious offense, no? Or at least scolded him in public for not
: respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit
: like that, no?
: Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
Ditto. Apert from being very small potatoes as this kind of thing
goes, it's all about context anyway. Girlfriends of mine have done far
more outrageous things 'to' me in public places, & vice versa, without
any disrespect or other other kind of evil intent being involved.
Forget lame shit like tit-grabbing, I could tell true stories that'd
curl your hair. ;^)
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Kadaitcha Man
2007-04-25 07:03:34 UTC
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Post by Lionel
Ditto. Apert from being very small potatoes as this kind of thing
goes, it's all about context anyway. Girlfriends of mine have done far
more outrageous things 'to' me in public places, & vice versa, without
any disrespect or other other kind of evil intent being involved.
Forget lame shit like tit-grabbing, I could tell true stories that'd
Take the idea expressed near the very end of that post then suppose and
imagine for just a moment... The notion that A is required and demanded to
fully respect the personal dignity of B at all times takes on an air of
unreasonableness when B goes out to dinner at very busy, classy restaurants
in short dresses and no underwear whatsoever.

Just a suppostion, a mind-image, and absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever.

*cough*
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Lionel
2007-04-25 07:55:30 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:48:34 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Lionel
Ditto. Apert from being very small potatoes as this kind of thing
goes, it's all about context anyway. Girlfriends of mine have done far
more outrageous things 'to' me in public places, & vice versa, without
any disrespect or other other kind of evil intent being involved.
Forget lame shit like tit-grabbing, I could tell true stories that'd
Take the idea expressed near the very end of that post then suppose and
imagine for just a moment... The notion that A is required and demanded to
fully respect the personal dignity of B at all times takes on an air of
unreasonableness when B goes out to dinner at very busy, classy restaurants
in short dresses and no underwear whatsoever.
Just a suppostion, a mind-image, and absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever.
Yes, exactly.
Post by Kadaitcha Man
*cough*
Ask me some time about the cutie I once knew who managed to shock
everyone at a party we attended.
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2007-04-25 08:03:22 UTC
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Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:48:34 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Lionel
Ditto. Apert from being very small potatoes as this kind of thing
goes, it's all about context anyway. Girlfriends of mine have done
far more outrageous things 'to' me in public places, & vice versa,
without any disrespect or other other kind of evil intent being
involved. Forget lame shit like tit-grabbing, I could tell true
Take the idea expressed near the very end of that post then suppose
and imagine for just a moment... The notion that A is required and
demanded to fully respect the personal dignity of B at all times
takes on an air of unreasonableness when B goes out to dinner at
very busy, classy restaurants in short dresses and no underwear
whatsoever.
Just a suppostion, a mind-image, and absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever.
Yes, exactly.
Post by Kadaitcha Man
*cough*
Ask me some time about the cutie I once knew who managed to shock
everyone at a party we attended.
I'm asking about the cutie you once knew who managed to shock everyone at a
party you attended.
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miguel
2007-04-25 14:46:43 UTC
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:48:34 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Lionel
Ditto. Apert from being very small potatoes as this kind of thing
goes, it's all about context anyway. Girlfriends of mine have done far
more outrageous things 'to' me in public places, & vice versa, without
any disrespect or other other kind of evil intent being involved.
Forget lame shit like tit-grabbing, I could tell true stories that'd
Take the idea expressed near the very end of that post then suppose and
imagine for just a moment... The notion that A is required and demanded to
fully respect the personal dignity of B at all times takes on an air of
unreasonableness when B goes out to dinner at very busy, classy restaurants
in short dresses and no underwear whatsoever.
Just a suppostion, a mind-image, and absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever.
*cough*
Were any principles violated in the making of this post?
Craig Stone
2007-04-25 14:54:00 UTC
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Post by miguel
Were any principles violated in the making of this post?
It depends. What principles do you have?
miguel
2007-04-25 15:40:37 UTC
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On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:54:00 GMT, "Craig Stone"
Post by Craig Stone
Post by miguel
Were any principles violated in the making of this post?
It depends. What principles do you have?
Well, try this on then.

You complain about Rhonda posting her private email to you, and refuse
to ask her permission to post what would support your claim she made a
suicidal gesture because your principles don't allow you to "stoop to
that level."

Then you conclude that she told Bill you're asthmatic, and complain
about that, ostensibly because it's private information being revealed
outside of your relationship, evidently in violation of one of your
principles because you wouldn't complain otherwise.

But instead of refusing to "stoop to that level" in this instance, you
post a claim that Rhonda went out to dinner with you with a short
skirt and no panties on, trying to imply that she's a tart who would
have no objection to having you grab her tit in public.

So what I'm asking Rick is why you would refuse to stoop to Rhonda's
level in one instance but have no problem stooping to her level in
another instance.

And I know the answer to that question, too.

The answer is that you cannot find a post that would justify your
calling the police to report her as being suicidal. So you are hiding
behind your so-called principles. Moreover, if you agree to open that
floodgate, you know that many more of your insecurities, neuroses, and
pathologies will be revealed. Can't have that now, can we?
Kadaitcha Man
2007-04-25 15:47:59 UTC
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Post by miguel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:54:00 GMT, "Craig Stone"
Post by Craig Stone
Post by miguel
Were any principles violated in the making of this post?
It depends. What principles do you have?
Well, try this on then.
That doesn't look like a principle. It looks like a self-referential
sentence.

HTH
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miguel
2007-04-25 16:00:44 UTC
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Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
Post by Craig Stone
Post by miguel
Were any principles violated in the making of this post?
It depends. What principles do you have?
Well, try this on then.
Context restore
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by miguel
You complain about Rhonda posting her private email to you, and refuse
to ask her permission to post what would support your claim she made a
suicidal gesture because your principles don't allow you to "stoop to
that level."
Then you conclude that she told Bill you're asthmatic, and complain
about that, ostensibly because it's private information being revealed
outside of your relationship, evidently in violation of one of your
principles because you wouldn't complain otherwise.
But instead of refusing to "stoop to that level" in this instance, you
post a claim that Rhonda went out to dinner with you with a short
skirt and no panties on, trying to imply that she's a tart who would
have no objection to having you grab her tit in public.
So what I'm asking Rick is why you would refuse to stoop to Rhonda's
level in one instance but have no problem stooping to her level in
another instance.
And I know the answer to that question, too.
The answer is that you cannot find a post that would justify your
calling the police to report her as being suicidal. So you are hiding
behind your so-called principles. Moreover, if you agree to open that
floodgate, you know that many more of your insecurities, neuroses, and
pathologies will be revealed. Can't have that now, can we?
End context restore.
Post by Kadaitcha Man
That doesn't look like a principle. It looks like a self-referential
sentence.
If that were the case, you'd have no need to snip it now, would you?
Kadaitcha Man
2007-04-25 16:08:07 UTC
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Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by Craig Stone
Post by miguel
Were any principles violated in the making of this post?
It depends. What principles do you have?
Well, try this on then.
Context restore
Note the power being exercised over you, oh lower invertebrate.
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John "C"
2007-04-25 18:14:12 UTC
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Post by miguel
Moreover, if you agree to open that
floodgate, you know that many more of your insecurities, neuroses, and
pathologies will be revealed. Can't have that now, can we?
We can. He liked the asthma "tid-bit" so much, throw us another tid-bit,
miguel.

HJ
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-25 18:29:24 UTC
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Post by John "C"
Post by miguel
Moreover, if you agree to open that
floodgate, you know that many more of your insecurities, neuroses,
and pathologies will be revealed. Can't have that now, can we?
We can. He liked the asthma "tid-bit" so much, throw us another
tid-bit, miguel.
Actually, miguel doesn't let slip things I've discussed with him in
confidence. Anything he has posted about something I've told him has
been posted with my prior permission.

OTOH, I'm not angry with Respondant for posting what he did, because it
was just a fact that came out of ordinary, every day conversation--in
other words, not anything that any reasonable person would consider
confidential.
--
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as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
John "C"
2007-04-25 19:45:56 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by John "C"
Post by miguel
Moreover, if you agree to open that
floodgate, you know that many more of your insecurities, neuroses,
and pathologies will be revealed. Can't have that now, can we?
We can. He liked the asthma "tid-bit" so much, throw us another
tid-bit, miguel.
Actually, miguel doesn't let slip things I've discussed with him in
confidence. Anything he has posted about something I've told him has
been posted with my prior permission.
OTOH, I'm not angry with Respondant for posting what he did, because it
was just a fact that came out of ordinary, every day conversation--in
other words, not anything that any reasonable person would consider
confidential.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk
Well help me out here.

With the extensive list of physical and mental problems Ricky has:

~~~~~~~~~why?~~~~~~~~


HJ
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-25 20:37:05 UTC
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"John "C"" <***@centurytel.net> wrote in message news:mv-***@centurytel.net

<snipped>
Post by John "C"
Well help me out here.
~~~~~~~~~why?~~~~~~~~
I wouldn't call it an extensive list.

The damage from the accident doesn't keep him down, and I have asthma
too (very mild, so it's only a problem when I try to run), nor does he
have an extensive list of mental problems--he's just a control freak. (I
don't think that last is a big secret to anyone here.)

On the plus side, he's smart, he's clever, he's funny, he's tender, he's
kind, his hair feels like silk, he smells good and his face is
beautiful. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. In all but one way,
it was like we were made for each other.

That one way...

Well, it's like this. He has permanent injury from his run-in with the
truck. What if, instead of giving him leg rubs, I had instead poked at
his legs every chance I got? Would you have expected him not to protest?
Would you think he was unreasonable for being angry if I continued to do
so even after I was asked to stop?

All my scars are psychological, but they're still scars. I was very
careful to tell him about what would reinjure old wounds. Rather than
steer clear--much less soothe--my hurts, however, he poked at them every
time the opportunity arose. He didn't do it because he's mean or evil,
but because there was a direct line from my scars to his need to be in
control.
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as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
John "C"
2007-04-25 21:42:39 UTC
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Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
<snipped>
Post by John "C"
Well help me out here.
~~~~~~~~~why?~~~~~~~~
I wouldn't call it an extensive list.
The damage from the accident doesn't keep him down, and I have asthma
too (very mild, so it's only a problem when I try to run), nor does he
have an extensive list of mental problems--he's just a control freak. (I
don't think that last is a big secret to anyone here.)
On the plus side, he's smart, he's clever, he's funny, he's tender, he's
kind, his hair feels like silk, he smells good and his face is
beautiful. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. In all but one way,
it was like we were made for each other.
That one way...
Well, it's like this. He has permanent injury from his run-in with the
truck. What if, instead of giving him leg rubs, I had instead poked at
his legs every chance I got? Would you have expected him not to protest?
Would you think he was unreasonable for being angry if I continued to do
so even after I was asked to stop?
All my scars are psychological, but they're still scars. I was very
careful to tell him about what would reinjure old wounds. Rather than
steer clear--much less soothe--my hurts, however, he poked at them every
time the opportunity arose. He didn't do it because he's mean or evil,
but because there was a direct line from my scars to his need to be in
control.
Thanks for the explanation. I can understand this a little better now.

I wouldn't advise to stop posting entirely to AUK or anywhere else, but I
would slow-down on arguing with Lionel and Rick. Just let them go about
their way and yak. You've made your point and that's enough!

Have a nice day.

HJ
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-25 21:50:10 UTC
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Post by John "C"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
<snipped>
Post by John "C"
Well help me out here.
~~~~~~~~~why?~~~~~~~~
I wouldn't call it an extensive list.
The damage from the accident doesn't keep him down, and I have asthma
too (very mild, so it's only a problem when I try to run), nor does
he have an extensive list of mental problems--he's just a control
freak. (I don't think that last is a big secret to anyone here.)
On the plus side, he's smart, he's clever, he's funny, he's tender,
he's kind, his hair feels like silk, he smells good and his face is
beautiful. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. In all but one
way, it was like we were made for each other.
That one way...
Well, it's like this. He has permanent injury from his run-in with
the truck. What if, instead of giving him leg rubs, I had instead
poked at his legs every chance I got? Would you have expected him
not to protest? Would you think he was unreasonable for being angry
if I continued to do so even after I was asked to stop?
All my scars are psychological, but they're still scars. I was very
careful to tell him about what would reinjure old wounds. Rather than
steer clear--much less soothe--my hurts, however, he poked at them
every time the opportunity arose. He didn't do it because he's mean
or evil, but because there was a direct line from my scars to his
need to be in control.
Thanks for the explanation. I can understand this a little better now.
I wouldn't advise to stop posting entirely to AUK or anywhere else,
but I would slow-down on arguing with Lionel and Rick. Just let them
go about their way and yak.
That would be nice.

I've been responding to about one post in three, and I've been trimming
the headers to limit the replies from others. Rick now claims to be out
of it, and Lionel is posting pedo lames, but Kali seems to want a pound
of flesh, so we'll see what happens.
Post by John "C"
You've made your point and that's enough!
Have I? They keep telling me I haven't. :)
Post by John "C"
Have a nice day.
Thanks. You too.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Lionel
2007-04-25 14:52:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:48:34 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Lionel
Ditto. Apert from being very small potatoes as this kind of thing
goes, it's all about context anyway. Girlfriends of mine have done far
more outrageous things 'to' me in public places, & vice versa, without
any disrespect or other other kind of evil intent being involved.
Forget lame shit like tit-grabbing, I could tell true stories that'd
Take the idea expressed near the very end of that post then suppose and
imagine for just a moment... The notion that A is required and demanded to
fully respect the personal dignity of B at all times takes on an air of
unreasonableness when B goes out to dinner at very busy, classy restaurants
in short dresses and no underwear whatsoever.
Just a suppostion, a mind-image, and absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever.
*cough*
Were any principles violated in the making of this post?
I didn't see any names mentioned - do you?
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
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\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
miguel
2007-04-25 15:33:48 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:48:34 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Lionel
Ditto. Apert from being very small potatoes as this kind of thing
goes, it's all about context anyway. Girlfriends of mine have done far
more outrageous things 'to' me in public places, & vice versa, without
any disrespect or other other kind of evil intent being involved.
Forget lame shit like tit-grabbing, I could tell true stories that'd
Take the idea expressed near the very end of that post then suppose and
imagine for just a moment... The notion that A is required and demanded to
fully respect the personal dignity of B at all times takes on an air of
unreasonableness when B goes out to dinner at very busy, classy restaurants
in short dresses and no underwear whatsoever.
Just a suppostion, a mind-image, and absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever.
*cough*
Were any principles violated in the making of this post?
I didn't see any names mentioned - do you?
Was there any uncertainty about Psick Pfreak Psycho Pstalker's target?
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-25 15:04:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:48:34 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Lionel
Ditto. Apert from being very small potatoes as this kind of thing
goes, it's all about context anyway. Girlfriends of mine have done
far more outrageous things 'to' me in public places, & vice versa,
without any disrespect or other other kind of evil intent being
involved. Forget lame shit like tit-grabbing, I could tell true
Take the idea expressed near the very end of that post then suppose
and imagine for just a moment... The notion that A is required and
demanded to fully respect the personal dignity of B at all times
takes on an air of unreasonableness when B goes out to dinner at
very busy, classy restaurants in short dresses and no underwear
whatsoever.
Just a suppostion, a mind-image, and absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever.
*cough*
Were any principles violated in the making of this post?
I've already said I don't wear panties.

He forgot to mention that the dresses were mid-thigh length.

He also forgot to mention how much it turned him on.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Art Deco
2007-04-25 15:28:40 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 12:48:34 +0545, "Kadaitcha Man"
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Lionel
Ditto. Apert from being very small potatoes as this kind of thing
goes, it's all about context anyway. Girlfriends of mine have done
far more outrageous things 'to' me in public places, & vice versa,
without any disrespect or other other kind of evil intent being
involved. Forget lame shit like tit-grabbing, I could tell true
Take the idea expressed near the very end of that post then suppose
and imagine for just a moment... The notion that A is required and
demanded to fully respect the personal dignity of B at all times
takes on an air of unreasonableness when B goes out to dinner at
very busy, classy restaurants in short dresses and no underwear
whatsoever.
Just a suppostion, a mind-image, and absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever.
*cough*
Were any principles violated in the making of this post?
I've already said I don't wear panties.
He forgot to mention that the dresses were mid-thigh length.
He also forgot to mention how much it turned him on.
And you just have to make sure the entire world knows all of this stuff.
--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco
miguel
2007-04-25 15:55:19 UTC
Permalink
Post by Art Deco
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by miguel
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Lionel
Ditto. Apert from being very small potatoes as this kind of thing
goes, it's all about context anyway. Girlfriends of mine have done
far more outrageous things 'to' me in public places, & vice versa,
without any disrespect or other other kind of evil intent being
involved. Forget lame shit like tit-grabbing, I could tell true
Take the idea expressed near the very end of that post then suppose
and imagine for just a moment... The notion that A is required and
demanded to fully respect the personal dignity of B at all times
takes on an air of unreasonableness when B goes out to dinner at
very busy, classy restaurants in short dresses and no underwear
whatsoever.
Just a suppostion, a mind-image, and absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever.
*cough*
Were any principles violated in the making of this post?
I've already said I don't wear panties.
He forgot to mention that the dresses were mid-thigh length.
He also forgot to mention how much it turned him on.
And you just have to make sure the entire world knows all of this stuff.
Psick Pfreak brought it up, dumbarse. Perhaps next time he should
exercise a bit more restraint.

Hahahaha! Rick Mather exercising restraint.

Oh my sides!
miguel
2007-04-25 15:44:44 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by miguel
Post by Kadaitcha Man
Post by Lionel
Ditto. Apert from being very small potatoes as this kind of thing
goes, it's all about context anyway. Girlfriends of mine have done
far more outrageous things 'to' me in public places, & vice versa,
without any disrespect or other other kind of evil intent being
involved. Forget lame shit like tit-grabbing, I could tell true
Take the idea expressed near the very end of that post then suppose
and imagine for just a moment... The notion that A is required and
demanded to fully respect the personal dignity of B at all times
takes on an air of unreasonableness when B goes out to dinner at
very busy, classy restaurants in short dresses and no underwear
whatsoever.
Just a suppostion, a mind-image, and absolutely no basis in fact whatsoever.
*cough*
Were any principles violated in the making of this post?
I've already said I don't wear panties.
He forgot to mention that the dresses were mid-thigh length.
He also forgot to mention how much it turned him on.
Well, I know why it would.

*winkies*
Kali
2007-04-25 07:04:10 UTC
Permalink
In <f0mti8$nb2$***@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>, Lionel
***@imagenoir.com said:
: On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 01:13:55 -0500, Kali <***@powder.keg> wrote:
:
: >In <o46dnROFx7hlxrPbnZ2dnUVZ_v-***@comcast.com>, Respondant
: >***@noemail.none said:
: >: miguel wrote:
: >: > Respondant wrote:
: >: >> miguel wrote:
: >: >>> Psick Pfreak Psycho Pstalker:
: >: >>>> miguel:
: >: >
: >: >>>>> Groups restored
: >: >
: >: >>>> Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
: >: >
: >: >>>>> Psick Pfreak Psycho Pstalker:
: >: >>>>>> miguel:
: >: >>>>>>> Psick Pfreak Psycho Pstalker:
: >: >>>>>>>> miguel:
: >: >
: >: >>>>>>>>>> And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
: >: >>>>>>>>>> possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
: >: >>>>>>>>>> it was).
: >: >
: >: >>>>>>>>> All he as to do is ask for permission.
: >: >
: >: >>>>>>>> My slip is showing, madam.
: >: >
: >: >>>>>>> Corrected.
: >: >
: >: >>>>>>>>> But he won't do that, because
: >: >>>>>>>>> that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
: >: >
: >: >>>>>>>> Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
: >: >>>>>>>> bunny-boiler did."
: >: >
: >: >>>>>>> Your logic circuits are failing.
: >: >
: >: >>>>>> Corrected.
: >: >
: >: >>>>>>> All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
: >: >>>>>>> then the two situations are not comparable.
: >: >
: >: >>>>>>> This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
: >: >>>>>>> posting one's own email.
: >: >
: >: >>>>>> What in particular do you not understand about the word no,
: >: >>>>>> crasston?
: >: >
: >: >>>>>> I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
: >: >>>>>> bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
: >: >
: >: >>>>> It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
: >: >>>>> usenet, psycho.
: >: >
: >: >>>>> But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
: >: >>>>> premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
: >: >>>>> police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
: >: >
: >: >>>>> The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
: >: >>>>> aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
: >: >>>>> your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
: >: >
: >: >>>> Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
: >: >>>> override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
: >: >>>> other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
: >: >>>> are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
: >: >
: >: >>>> If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
: >: >
: >: >>>> HTH
: >: >
: >: >>> Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
: >: >>> you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
: >: >>> gesture, may he have permission to post it?
: >: >
: >: >>> Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
: >: >>> unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
: >: >
: >: >>> She would be authorizing it.
: >: >
: >: >>> Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
: >: >>> you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
: >: >
: >: >>> How about it, psycho?
: >: >
: >: >> I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
: >: >> "principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted
: >: >> to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no
: >: >> less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being asthmatic.
: >: >
: >: >> HTH ROFL
: >: >
: >: > Hard to figure, you're damn right.
: >:
: >: Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage* from AUK
: >: over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or
: >: some other armchair shrink should have written Rick the riot act over such
: >: an egregious offense, no? Or at least scolded him in public for not
: >: respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit
: >: like that, no?
: >:
: >: Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
: >
: >The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
: >themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
: >lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
: >outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
: >a-shit for some reason.
:
: Ditto. Apert from being very small potatoes as this kind of thing
: goes, it's all about context anyway. Girlfriends of mine have done far
: more outrageous things 'to' me in public places, & vice versa, without
: any disrespect or other other kind of evil intent being involved.
: Forget lame shit like tit-grabbing, I could tell true stories that'd
: curl your hair. ;^)

Subscribe! ;)

Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein
miguel
2007-04-25 14:38:11 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kali
: >>>>> Groups restored
: >>>> Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
: >>>>>>>>>> And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
: >>>>>>>>>> possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
: >>>>>>>>>> it was).
: >>>>>>>>> All he as to do is ask for permission.
: >>>>>>>> My slip is showing, madam.
: >>>>>>> Corrected.
: >>>>>>>>> But he won't do that, because
: >>>>>>>>> that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
: >>>>>>>> Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
: >>>>>>>> bunny-boiler did."
: >>>>>>> Your logic circuits are failing.
: >>>>>> Corrected.
: >>>>>>> All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
: >>>>>>> then the two situations are not comparable.
: >>>>>>> This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
: >>>>>>> posting one's own email.
: >>>>>> What in particular do you not understand about the word no,
: >>>>>> crasston?
: >>>>>> I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
: >>>>>> bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
: >>>>> It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
: >>>>> usenet, psycho.
: >>>>> But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
: >>>>> premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
: >>>>> police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
: >>>>> The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
: >>>>> aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
: >>>>> your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
: >>>> Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
: >>>> override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
: >>>> other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
: >>>> are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
: >>>> If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
: >>>> HTH
: >>> Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
: >>> you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
: >>> gesture, may he have permission to post it?
: >>> Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
: >>> unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
: >>> She would be authorizing it.
: >>> Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
: >>> you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
: >>> How about it, psycho?
: >> I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
: >> "principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted
: >> to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no
: >> less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being asthmatic.
: >> HTH ROFL
: > Hard to figure, you're damn right.
: Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage* from AUK
: over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or
: some other armchair shrink should have written Rick the riot act over such
: an egregious offense, no? Or at least scolded him in public for not
: respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit
: like that, no?
: Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.

According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
objectified her. It was degrading. You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
Lionel
2007-04-25 14:50:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
: >>>>> Groups restored
: >>>> Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
: >>>>>>>>>> And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
: >>>>>>>>>> possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
: >>>>>>>>>> it was).
: >>>>>>>>> All he as to do is ask for permission.
: >>>>>>>> My slip is showing, madam.
: >>>>>>> Corrected.
: >>>>>>>>> But he won't do that, because
: >>>>>>>>> that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
: >>>>>>>> Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
: >>>>>>>> bunny-boiler did."
: >>>>>>> Your logic circuits are failing.
: >>>>>> Corrected.
: >>>>>>> All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
: >>>>>>> then the two situations are not comparable.
: >>>>>>> This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
: >>>>>>> posting one's own email.
: >>>>>> What in particular do you not understand about the word no,
: >>>>>> crasston?
: >>>>>> I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
: >>>>>> bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
: >>>>> It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
: >>>>> usenet, psycho.
: >>>>> But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
: >>>>> premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
: >>>>> police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
: >>>>> The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
: >>>>> aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
: >>>>> your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
: >>>> Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
: >>>> override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
: >>>> other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
: >>>> are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
: >>>> If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
: >>>> HTH
: >>> Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
: >>> you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
: >>> gesture, may he have permission to post it?
: >>> Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
: >>> unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
: >>> She would be authorizing it.
: >>> Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
: >>> you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
: >>> How about it, psycho?
: >> I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
: >> "principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted
: >> to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no
: >> less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being asthmatic.
: >> HTH ROFL
: > Hard to figure, you're damn right.
: Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage* from AUK
: over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or
: some other armchair shrink should have written Rick the riot act over such
: an egregious offense, no? Or at least scolded him in public for not
: respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit
: like that, no?
: Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us all
how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all inhibited
about beating up men in social situations, so if the lying twat was so
upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at the time? My GF's shy &
tiny, but she'd whack me one if I grabbed her tit in public.
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at wimps
like you.
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
. | ,. w ,
\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Art Deco
2007-04-25 15:27:38 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
: >>>>> Groups restored
: >>>> Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
: >>>>>>>>>> And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
: >>>>>>>>>> possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
: >>>>>>>>>> it was).
: >>>>>>>>> All he as to do is ask for permission.
: >>>>>>>> My slip is showing, madam.
: >>>>>>> Corrected.
: >>>>>>>>> But he won't do that, because
: >>>>>>>>> that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
: >>>>>>>> Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
: >>>>>>>> bunny-boiler did."
: >>>>>>> Your logic circuits are failing.
: >>>>>> Corrected.
: >>>>>>> All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
: >>>>>>> then the two situations are not comparable.
: >>>>>>> This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
: >>>>>>> posting one's own email.
: >>>>>> What in particular do you not understand about the word no,
: >>>>>> crasston?
: >>>>>> I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
: >>>>>> bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
: >>>>> It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
: >>>>> usenet, psycho.
: >>>>> But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
: >>>>> premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
: >>>>> police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
: >>>>> The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
: >>>>> aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
: >>>>> your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
: >>>> Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
: >>>> override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
: >>>> other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
: >>>> are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
: >>>> If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
: >>>> HTH
: >>> Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
: >>> you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
: >>> gesture, may he have permission to post it?
: >>> Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
: >>> unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
: >>> She would be authorizing it.
: >>> Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
: >>> you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
: >>> How about it, psycho?
: >> I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
: >> "principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted
: >> to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no
: >> less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being asthmatic.
: >> HTH ROFL
: > Hard to figure, you're damn right.
: Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage* from AUK
: over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or
: some other armchair shrink should have written Rick the riot act over such
: an egregious offense, no? Or at least scolded him in public for not
: respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble
: bullshit
: like that, no?
: Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us all
how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all inhibited
about beating up men in social situations, so if the lying twat was so
upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at the time? My GF's shy &
tiny, but she'd whack me one if I grabbed her tit in public.
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at wimps
like you.
Note that she made sure that crasston knows all the gory details,
probably including date, time, location, and names of witnesses.
--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco
miguel
2007-04-25 15:51:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Art Deco
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
: >>>>> Groups restored
: >>>> Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
: >>>>>>>>>> And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
: >>>>>>>>>> possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
: >>>>>>>>>> it was).
: >>>>>>>>> All he as to do is ask for permission.
: >>>>>>>> My slip is showing, madam.
: >>>>>>> Corrected.
: >>>>>>>>> But he won't do that, because
: >>>>>>>>> that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
: >>>>>>>> Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
: >>>>>>>> bunny-boiler did."
: >>>>>>> Your logic circuits are failing.
: >>>>>> Corrected.
: >>>>>>> All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
: >>>>>>> then the two situations are not comparable.
: >>>>>>> This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
: >>>>>>> posting one's own email.
: >>>>>> What in particular do you not understand about the word no,
: >>>>>> crasston?
: >>>>>> I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
: >>>>>> bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
: >>>>> It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
: >>>>> usenet, psycho.
: >>>>> But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
: >>>>> premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
: >>>>> police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
: >>>>> The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
: >>>>> aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
: >>>>> your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
: >>>> Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
: >>>> override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
: >>>> other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
: >>>> are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
: >>>> If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
: >>>> HTH
: >>> Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
: >>> you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
: >>> gesture, may he have permission to post it?
: >>> Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
: >>> unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
: >>> She would be authorizing it.
: >>> Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
: >>> you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
: >>> How about it, psycho?
: >> I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
: >> "principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted
: >> to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no
: >> less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being asthmatic.
: >> HTH ROFL
: > Hard to figure, you're damn right.
: Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage* from AUK
: over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or
: some other armchair shrink should have written Rick the riot act over such
: an egregious offense, no? Or at least scolded him in public for not
: respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble
: bullshit
: like that, no?
: Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us all
how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all inhibited
about beating up men in social situations, so if the lying twat was so
upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at the time? My GF's shy &
tiny, but she'd whack me one if I grabbed her tit in public.
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at wimps
like you.
Note that she made sure that crasston knows all the gory details,
probably including date, time, location, and names of witnesses.
"Gory" details? Why would you say that?
Lionel
2007-04-25 23:59:24 UTC
Permalink
Post by Art Deco
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
: >>>>> Groups restored
: >>>> Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
: >>>>>>>>>> And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
: >>>>>>>>>> possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or whatever
: >>>>>>>>>> it was).
: >>>>>>>>> All he as to do is ask for permission.
: >>>>>>>> My slip is showing, madam.
: >>>>>>> Corrected.
: >>>>>>>>> But he won't do that, because
: >>>>>>>>> that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
: >>>>>>>> Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
: >>>>>>>> bunny-boiler did."
: >>>>>>> Your logic circuits are failing.
: >>>>>> Corrected.
: >>>>>>> All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive permission,
: >>>>>>> then the two situations are not comparable.
: >>>>>>> This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
: >>>>>>> posting one's own email.
: >>>>>> What in particular do you not understand about the word no,
: >>>>>> crasston?
: >>>>>> I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
: >>>>>> bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
: >>>>> It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
: >>>>> usenet, psycho.
: >>>>> But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
: >>>>> premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
: >>>>> police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
: >>>>> The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
: >>>>> aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding behind
: >>>>> your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
: >>>> Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and principles
: >>>> override everything in my world view except survival instinct. In
: >>>> other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to yours, thus you
: >>>> are free to draw any conclusion you like, crasston.
: >>>> If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
: >>>> HTH
: >>> Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
: >>> you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
: >>> gesture, may he have permission to post it?
: >>> Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
: >>> unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
: >>> She would be authorizing it.
: >>> Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
: >>> you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
: >>> How about it, psycho?
: >> I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
: >> "principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly admitted
: >> to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a stranger, no
: >> less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being asthmatic.
: >> HTH ROFL
: > Hard to figure, you're damn right.
: Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage* from AUK
: over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or
: some other armchair shrink should have written Rick the riot act over such
: an egregious offense, no? Or at least scolded him in public for not
: respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble
: bullshit
: like that, no?
: Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us all
how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all inhibited
about beating up men in social situations, so if the lying twat was so
upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at the time? My GF's shy &
tiny, but she'd whack me one if I grabbed her tit in public.
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at wimps
like you.
Note that she made sure that crasston knows all the gory details,
probably including date, time, location, and names of witnesses.
Of course. No doubt she thinks he'll provide her with legal assistance
to escalate her persecution, seeing as she's unemployed & can't afford
a real attorney. Bet he hasn't told her that as a participant, he
can't represent her.
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
. | ,. w ,
\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-26 00:23:41 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
Post by Art Deco
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he
can't possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC
(or whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive
permission, then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical
about posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is
hell bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground
on usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to
the police reasonable is not stooping to any level
whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you
are aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're
hiding behind your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and
principles override everything in my world view except
survival instinct. In other words, I refuse to stoop to her
level or to yours, thus you are free to draw any conclusion
you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any
email from you dated March 23 that he believes is the
equivalent of a suicidal gesture, may he have permission to
post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against
the unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being
sodomized and you could make the case for the existence of a
suicidal gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly
admitted to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a
stranger, no less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while
being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Hard to figure, you're damn right.
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the
*outrage* from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick
doesn't deny? Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should
have written Rick the riot act over such an egregious offense,
no? Or at least scolded him in public for not respecting
Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit
like that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a
friend whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that
can only be construed as a gesture of territoriality and
possessiveness. It objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us all
how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all inhibited
about beating up men in social situations, so if the lying twat was
so upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at the time? My GF's
shy & tiny, but she'd whack me one if I grabbed her tit in public.
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at wimps
like you.
Note that she made sure that crasston knows all the gory details,
probably including date, time, location, and names of witnesses.
Of course. No doubt she thinks he'll provide her with legal assistance
to escalate her persecution,
Tell me more, Carnac.
Post by Lionel
seeing as she's unemployed & can't afford a real attorney.
One of the few lawyer friends I stayed in contact with in New Jersey
specializes in First Amendment issues.

He represents a large news chain, and a single libel case that went to
the US Supreme Court twice put both of his boys through an exclusive
private high school.

Also, I still have friends in Florida.
Post by Lionel
Bet he hasn't told her that as a participant, he
can't represent her.
Did you miss the part about "Rhonda has been a paralegal since 1984"?
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Lionel
2007-04-26 01:52:03 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:23:41 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Post by Art Deco
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he
can't possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC
(or whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive
permission, then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical
about posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no,
crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is
hell bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground
on usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to
the police reasonable is not stooping to any level
whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you
are aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're
hiding behind your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and
principles override everything in my world view except
survival instinct. In other words, I refuse to stoop to her
level or to yours, thus you are free to draw any conclusion
you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any
email from you dated March 23 that he believes is the
equivalent of a suicidal gesture, may he have permission to
post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against
the unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being
sodomized and you could make the case for the existence of a
suicidal gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly
admitted to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a
stranger, no less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while
being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Hard to figure, you're damn right.
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the
*outrage* from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick
doesn't deny? Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should
have written Rick the riot act over such an egregious offense,
no? Or at least scolded him in public for not respecting
Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit
like that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a
friend whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that
can only be construed as a gesture of territoriality and
possessiveness. It objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us all
how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all inhibited
about beating up men in social situations, so if the lying twat was
so upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at the time? My GF's
shy & tiny, but she'd whack me one if I grabbed her tit in public.
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at wimps
like you.
Note that she made sure that crasston knows all the gory details,
probably including date, time, location, and names of witnesses.
Of course. No doubt she thinks he'll provide her with legal assistance
to escalate her persecution,
Tell me more, Carnac.
Post by Lionel
seeing as she's unemployed & can't afford a real attorney.
One of the few lawyer friends I stayed in contact with in New Jersey
specializes in First Amendment issues.
<twirls finger in air> Whoop de do. I have three ex-girlfriends who're
lawyers, all of whom I'm still on good terms with.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
He represents a large news chain, and a single libel case that went to
the US Supreme Court twice put both of his boys through an exclusive
private high school.
None of which has any bearing on your idiotic Usenet jihad.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Also, I still have friends in Florida.
All of whom would be happy to help you in your Quixotic quest for
self-immolation, no doubt.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Bet he hasn't told her that as a participant, he
can't represent her.
Did you miss the part about "Rhonda has been a paralegal since 1984"?
Then you're a remarkably bad one.
“He who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client”
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
. | ,. w ,
\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-26 02:06:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:23:41 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Post by Art Deco
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he
can't possibly prove without outing personal
email/IRC (or whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what
the bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive
permission, then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical
about posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word
no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who
is hell bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground
on usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but
necessary premise that some suicidal gesture made your
phone call to the police reasonable is not stooping to
any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that
you are aware there is no evidence of such gesture so
you're hiding behind your ridiculous claim of moral high
ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and
principles override everything in my world view except
survival instinct. In other words, I refuse to stoop to her
level or to yours, thus you are free to draw any conclusion
you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any
email from you dated March 23 that he believes is the
equivalent of a suicidal gesture, may he have permission to
post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against
the unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being
sodomized and you could make the case for the existence of a
suicidal gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly
admitted to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of
a stranger, no less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while
being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Hard to figure, you're damn right.
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the
*outrage* from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick
doesn't deny? Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should
have written Rick the riot act over such an egregious offense,
no? Or at least scolded him in public for not respecting
Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble
bullshit like that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a
friend whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way
that can only be construed as a gesture of territoriality and
possessiveness. It objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us
all how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all
inhibited about beating up men in social situations, so if the
lying twat was so upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at
the time? My GF's shy & tiny, but she'd whack me one if I grabbed
her tit in public.
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at
wimps like you.
Note that she made sure that crasston knows all the gory details,
probably including date, time, location, and names of witnesses.
Of course. No doubt she thinks he'll provide her with legal
assistance to escalate her persecution,
Tell me more, Carnac.
Post by Lionel
seeing as she's unemployed & can't afford a real attorney.
One of the few lawyer friends I stayed in contact with in New Jersey
specializes in First Amendment issues.
<twirls finger in air> Whoop de do. I have three ex-girlfriends who're
lawyers, all of whom I'm still on good terms with.
rofl!

Oh Lionel, you poor pathetic fuck.
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
He represents a large news chain, and a single libel case that went
to the US Supreme Court twice put both of his boys through an
exclusive private high school.
None of which has any bearing on your idiotic Usenet jihad.
Sure it does. If I need a lawyer, he's the guy I would see, because he's
licensed in the state where I reside.

Mike is licensed in a different state, so even if there were no other
bar to his representing me, he couldn't represent me.
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Also, I still have friends in Florida.
All of whom would be happy to help you in your Quixotic quest for
self-immolation, no doubt.
What makes you think they see it the same way you do, Lionel?
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Bet he hasn't told her that as a participant, he
can't represent her.
Did you miss the part about "Rhonda has been a paralegal since 1984"?
Then you're a remarkably bad one.
I'm a very good one.
Post by Lionel
"He who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client"
I'm not a lawyer.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Lionel
2007-04-26 03:22:41 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:06:53 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:23:41 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Post by Art Deco
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he
can't possibly prove without outing personal
email/IRC (or whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what
the bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive
permission, then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical
about posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word
no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who
is hell bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground
on usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but
necessary premise that some suicidal gesture made your
phone call to the police reasonable is not stooping to
any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that
you are aware there is no evidence of such gesture so
you're hiding behind your ridiculous claim of moral high
ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and
principles override everything in my world view except
survival instinct. In other words, I refuse to stoop to her
level or to yours, thus you are free to draw any conclusion
you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any
email from you dated March 23 that he believes is the
equivalent of a suicidal gesture, may he have permission to
post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against
the unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being
sodomized and you could make the case for the existence of a
suicidal gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly
admitted to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of
a stranger, no less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while
being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Hard to figure, you're damn right.
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the
*outrage* from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick
doesn't deny? Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should
have written Rick the riot act over such an egregious offense,
no? Or at least scolded him in public for not respecting
Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble
bullshit like that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a
friend whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way
that can only be construed as a gesture of territoriality and
possessiveness. It objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us
all how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all
inhibited about beating up men in social situations, so if the
lying twat was so upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at
the time? My GF's shy & tiny, but she'd whack me one if I grabbed
her tit in public.
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at
wimps like you.
Note that she made sure that crasston knows all the gory details,
probably including date, time, location, and names of witnesses.
Of course. No doubt she thinks he'll provide her with legal
assistance to escalate her persecution,
Tell me more, Carnac.
Post by Lionel
seeing as she's unemployed & can't afford a real attorney.
One of the few lawyer friends I stayed in contact with in New Jersey
specializes in First Amendment issues.
<twirls finger in air> Whoop de do. I have three ex-girlfriends who're
lawyers, all of whom I'm still on good terms with.
rofl!
Oh Lionel, you poor pathetic fuck.
It's no more pathetic than your boundless faith in the notion that
knowing a lawyer makes your worthless cause any more winnable, which
is obviously what you're trying to say with your lame reference to
your "lawyer friends" in NJ. Give 'em a call, Bunny-Boiler - they'll
tell you that you haven't got a case against any of us, & that
attempting to bring one will just make you look even kookier than you
already do.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
He represents a large news chain, and a single libel case that went
to the US Supreme Court twice put both of his boys through an
exclusive private high school.
None of which has any bearing on your idiotic Usenet jihad.
Sure it does. If I need a lawyer, he's the guy I would see, because he's
licensed in the state where I reside.
So give him a call, Judge Judy, what're you waiting for?
I'm looking forward to hearing his take on your idiotic bunny-boiling
crusade.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Mike is licensed in a different state, so even if there were no other
bar to his representing me, he couldn't represent me.
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Also, I still have friends in Florida.
All of whom would be happy to help you in your Quixotic quest for
self-immolation, no doubt.
What makes you think they see it the same way you do, Lionel?
The fact that I'm not an insane bunny-boiler who's drooling for
vengeance.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Bet he hasn't told her that as a participant, he
can't represent her.
Did you miss the part about "Rhonda has been a paralegal since 1984"?
Then you're a remarkably bad one.
I'm a very good one.
Really? Then you should know better than to make threats of legal
action on Usenet.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
"He who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client"
I'm not a lawyer.
Yes, we can tell.
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
. | ,. w ,
\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-26 03:41:35 UTC
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Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:06:53 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 20:23:41 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Post by Art Deco
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that
he can't possibly prove without outing personal
email/IRC (or whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what
the bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive
permission, then the two situations are not
comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything
unethical about posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word
no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who
is hell bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral
highground on usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but
necessary premise that some suicidal gesture made your
phone call to the police reasonable is not stooping to
any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that
you are aware there is no evidence of such gesture so
you're hiding behind your ridiculous claim of moral high
ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and
principles override everything in my world view except
survival instinct. In other words, I refuse to stoop to
her level or to yours, thus you are free to draw any
conclusion you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any
email from you dated March 23 that he believes is the
equivalent of a suicidal gesture, may he have permission
to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule
against the unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being
sodomized and you could make the case for the existence
of a suicidal gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly
admitted to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front
of a stranger, no less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes
while being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Hard to figure, you're damn right.
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the
*outrage* from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that
Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or some other armchair
shrink should have written Rick the riot act over such an
egregious offense, no? Or at least scolded him in public
for not respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such
psycho-babble bullshit like that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough
give- a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a
friend whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way
that can only be construed as a gesture of territoriality and
possessiveness. It objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us
all how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all
inhibited about beating up men in social situations, so if the
lying twat was so upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at
the time? My GF's shy & tiny, but she'd whack me one if I
grabbed her tit in public.
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at
wimps like you.
Note that she made sure that crasston knows all the gory details,
probably including date, time, location, and names of witnesses.
Of course. No doubt she thinks he'll provide her with legal
assistance to escalate her persecution,
Tell me more, Carnac.
Post by Lionel
seeing as she's unemployed & can't afford a real attorney.
One of the few lawyer friends I stayed in contact with in New
Jersey specializes in First Amendment issues.
<twirls finger in air> Whoop de do. I have three ex-girlfriends
who're lawyers, all of whom I'm still on good terms with.
rofl!
Oh Lionel, you poor pathetic fuck.
It's no more pathetic than your boundless faith in the notion that
knowing a lawyer makes your worthless cause any more winnable, which
is obviously what you're trying to say with your lame reference to
your "lawyer friends" in NJ. Give 'em a call, Bunny-Boiler - they'll
tell you that you haven't got a case against any of us, & that
attempting to bring one will just make you look even kookier than you
already do.
You asserted that I can't afford legal counsel. I explained what I would
do if I needed legal counsel.

You have taken my explanation over the top with another specious
assertion.

Besides which, Lionel, if I /were/ going to do anything, I would start
where I'm guaranteed to get results, which has nothing to do with your
pitiful posts.
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
He represents a large news chain, and a single libel case that went
to the US Supreme Court twice put both of his boys through an
exclusive private high school.
None of which has any bearing on your idiotic Usenet jihad.
Sure it does. If I need a lawyer, he's the guy I would see, because
he's licensed in the state where I reside.
So give him a call, Judge Judy, what're you waiting for?
I'm looking forward to hearing his take on your idiotic bunny-boiling
crusade.
If I were going to see a lawyer, I wouldn't talk about it here, Lionel.
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Mike is licensed in a different state, so even if there were no other
bar to his representing me, he couldn't represent me.
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Also, I still have friends in Florida.
All of whom would be happy to help you in your Quixotic quest for
self-immolation, no doubt.
What makes you think they see it the same way you do, Lionel?
The fact that I'm not an insane bunny-boiler who's drooling for
vengeance.
They know me better than you do, and they don't have to lie and twist to
make a claim.

The also don't have to call people things they're not to feel as if
they've won an argument.
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Bet he hasn't told her that as a participant, he
can't represent her.
Did you miss the part about "Rhonda has been a paralegal since 1984"?
Then you're a remarkably bad one.
I'm a very good one.
Really? Then you should know better than to make threats of legal
action on Usenet.
I haven't made threats of legal action.

You've made them for me.

And Rick threatened me with the police.

If you can find a post where I've threatened legal action, post a link,
Lionel.

As I said above, if that were my intent, I would do it, not talk about
it.
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
"He who is his own lawyer has a fool for a client"
I'm not a lawyer.
Yes, we can tell.
Says the sysadmin who knows nothing, but pretends he knows all.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
miguel
2007-04-25 15:32:21 UTC
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snip
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
: Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage* from AUK
: over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or
: some other armchair shrink should have written Rick the riot act over such
: an egregious offense, no? Or at least scolded him in public for not
: respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit
: like that, no?
: Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us all
how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all inhibited
about beating up men in social situations, so if the lying twat was so
upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at the time? My GF's shy &
tiny, but she'd whack me one if I grabbed her tit in public.
She'd do that even if you were just being "playful?"

Could you contradict yourself more starkly in the space of one
paragraph only?
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at wimps
like you.
Not at all. You recognize how offensive it is by noting that your
girlfriend would slap you silly if you did it to her.
Lionel
2007-04-26 00:10:06 UTC
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Post by miguel
snip
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
: Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage* from AUK
: over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or
: some other armchair shrink should have written Rick the riot act over such
: an egregious offense, no? Or at least scolded him in public for not
: respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit
: like that, no?
: Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us all
how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all inhibited
about beating up men in social situations, so if the lying twat was so
upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at the time? My GF's shy &
tiny, but she'd whack me one if I grabbed her tit in public.
She'd do that even if you were just being "playful?"
In private, no, in public, yes.
Post by miguel
Could you contradict yourself more starkly in the space of one
paragraph only?
Don't be ridiculous. That's just her. Plenty of my previous GF's would
probably have reacted to a public tit-grab by grabbing my crotch or
something.
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at wimps
like you.
Not at all.
You actually think you have a chance with her, don't you?

HAHAHahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!
Post by miguel
You recognize how offensive it is by noting that your
girlfriend would slap you silly if you did it to her.
Giving someone a whack is nothing like slapping them silly,
Legal-Beagle.
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
. | ,. w ,
\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-25 18:11:57 UTC
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Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he
can't possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC
(or whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive
permission, then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical
about posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is
hell bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you
are aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're
hiding behind your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and
principles override everything in my world view except
survival instinct. In other words, I refuse to stoop to her
level or to yours, thus you are free to draw any conclusion
you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email
from you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a
suicidal gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized
and you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal
gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly
admitted to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a
stranger, no less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while
being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Hard to figure, you're damn right.
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage*
from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny?
Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should have written Rick
the riot act over such an egregious offense, no? Or at least
scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or
some other such psycho-babble bullshit like that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us all
how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all inhibited
about beating up men in social situations,
What are you talking about?
Post by Lionel
so if the lying twat was so
upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at the time? My GF's shy &
tiny, but she'd whack me one if I grabbed her tit in public.
I think that's what most women would do.

Thanks for the admission that it wasn't something okay to do.
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at wimps
like you.
Yer killin' me, Lionel.

Mike has a girlfriend and a happy home life. Just because someone is a
friend to someone else on usenet, it doesn't make them fuckbuddies in
real life.

But he's not a wimp, by any means, and I can't reject what I haven't
been offered.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Lionel
2007-04-26 00:15:29 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:11:57 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he
can't possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC
(or whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive
permission, then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical
about posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is
hell bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you
are aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're
hiding behind your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and
principles override everything in my world view except
survival instinct. In other words, I refuse to stoop to her
level or to yours, thus you are free to draw any conclusion
you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email
from you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a
suicidal gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized
and you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal
gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly
admitted to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a
stranger, no less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while
being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Hard to figure, you're damn right.
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage*
from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny?
Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should have written Rick
the riot act over such an egregious offense, no? Or at least
scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or
some other such psycho-babble bullshit like that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us all
how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all inhibited
about beating up men in social situations,
What are you talking about?
You were posting to the same thread. Go look it up yourself, you
clueless bint.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
so if the lying twat was so
upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at the time? My GF's shy &
tiny, but she'd whack me one if I grabbed her tit in public.
I think that's what most women would do.
Thanks for the admission that it wasn't something okay to do.
...to my current GF.
Thanks for the admission that you didn't have the slightest problem
with having your tit grabbed.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at wimps
like you.
Yer killin' me, Lionel.
Mike has a girlfriend and a happy home life.
Of course he does. And guys like that never, ever chase after other
women.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Just because someone is a
friend to someone else on usenet, it doesn't make them fuckbuddies in
real life.
But he's not a wimp, by any means, and I can't reject what I haven't
been offered.
I'm sure you'll get a chance soon enough.

BTW, when you're unemployed, aren't you supposed to spend the day
looking for work instead of playing on the Internet?
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
. | ,. w ,
\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-26 00:37:05 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 14:11:57 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he
can't possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC
(or whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive
permission, then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical
about posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is
hell bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground
on usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to
the police reasonable is not stooping to any level
whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you
are aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're
hiding behind your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and
principles override everything in my world view except
survival instinct. In other words, I refuse to stoop to her
level or to yours, thus you are free to draw any conclusion
you like, crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any
email from you dated March 23 that he believes is the
equivalent of a suicidal gesture, may he have permission to
post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against
the unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being
sodomized and you could make the case for the existence of a
suicidal gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly
admitted to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a
stranger, no less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while
being asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Hard to figure, you're damn right.
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage*
from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't
deny? Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should have
written Rick the riot act over such an egregious offense, no?
Or at least scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's
"boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit like
that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a
friend whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that
can only be construed as a gesture of territoriality and
possessiveness. It objectified her. It was degrading.
It was being playful, numbnuts. Her violent buddy was telling us all
how she's practically a Black Belt, & how she isn't at all inhibited
about beating up men in social situations,
What are you talking about?
You were posting to the same thread. Go look it up yourself, you
clueless bint.
Crash was talking about a third person who is unknown to me. I have no
black belt, and I don't beat up anyone in social situations, so my
mystification should be obvious.
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
so if the lying twat was so
upset about it, why didn't she slap him one at the time? My GF's
shy & tiny, but she'd whack me one if I grabbed her tit in public.
I think that's what most women would do.
Thanks for the admission that it wasn't something okay to do.
...to my current GF.
Thanks for the admission that you didn't have the slightest problem
with having your tit grabbed.
I did have a problem with it. That should be evident from the post I
made in response to the post about the incident.

Nonetheless, I thought it was an isolated incidence of boyish
exuberance, and I wasn't inclined to make a scene under the
circumstances.
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
You're trying to maximise it to get in her pants, Crasstoad, you
simpering little crawler. It won't work, y'know, she laughs at wimps
like you.
Yer killin' me, Lionel.
Mike has a girlfriend and a happy home life.
Of course he does. And guys like that never, ever chase after other
women.
Well, he's not chasing me. Perhaps I'm not his type.
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Just because someone is a
friend to someone else on usenet, it doesn't make them fuckbuddies in
real life.
But he's not a wimp, by any means, and I can't reject what I haven't
been offered.
I'm sure you'll get a chance soon enough.
I'll be sure to let you know.
Post by Lionel
BTW, when you're unemployed, aren't you supposed to spend the day
looking for work instead of playing on the Internet?
How is that any of your business?
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-25 15:36:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or
whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive
permission, then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is
hell bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding
behind your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and
principles override everything in my world view except survival
instinct. In other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to
yours, thus you are free to draw any conclusion you like,
crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email
from you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a
suicidal gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized
and you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal
gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly
admitted to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a
stranger, no less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being
asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Hard to figure, you're damn right.
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage*
from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny?
Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should have written Rick
the riot act over such an egregious offense, no? Or at least
scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or
some other such psycho-babble bullshit like that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
objectified her. It was degrading. You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
I don't think I've ever complained about the "mere" touching, public or
otherwise. There was quite a lot of that in public places--on both
sides--but if it wasn't PG-Rated, it was done very discretely, out of
view of others, except for his breast grab (and it was a grab) in front
of our brunch companion.

Nonetheless, as I've said repeatedly, I let the breast grope pass except
for the brief look of shock that he apparently missed. I did not expect
that the kind of ownership he appeared to be asserting would continue,
but it did, which is why it took on a different significance later.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Art Deco
2007-04-25 16:07:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Nonetheless, as I've said repeatedly, I let the breast grope pass except
for the brief look of shock that he apparently missed.
Yet you never pass on an opportunity to yap about it on usenet.
--
Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-25 16:38:14 UTC
Permalink
Post by Art Deco
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Nonetheless, as I've said repeatedly, I let the breast grope pass
except for the brief look of shock that he apparently missed.
Yet you never pass on an opportunity to yap about it on usenet.
We all do what we can to add to the post count, Deco.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Kali
2007-04-25 20:08:04 UTC
Permalink
In <***@4ax.com>, miguel mjc101
@gmail.com said:
: Kali wrote:
: >Respondant said:
: >: miguel wrote:
: >: > Respondant wrote:
: >: >> miguel wrote:
: >: >>> Psick Pfreak Psycho Pstalker:
: >: >>>> miguel:

[...]

: >: Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage* from AUK
: >: over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or
: >: some other armchair shrink should have written Rick the riot act over such
: >: an egregious offense, no? Or at least scolded him in public for not
: >: respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit
: >: like that, no?
:
: >: Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
:
: >The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
: >themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
: >lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
: >outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
: >a-shit for some reason.
:
: You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.

Where did I answer a rhetorical question? What you've written
below betrays your assertion that the question was rhetorical.

: According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
: whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
: be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
: objectified her. It was degrading. You're trying to minimize it for
: your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
:
Who really cares, huh? Besides you, I mean.

Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-25 20:38:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kali
[...]
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage*
from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny?
Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should have written Rick
the riot act over such an egregious offense, no? Or at least
scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or
some other such psycho-babble bullshit like that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
Where did I answer a rhetorical question? What you've written
below betrays your assertion that the question was rhetorical.
Post by miguel
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
objectified her. It was degrading. You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
Who really cares, huh? Besides you, I mean.
And yet you, o uncaring one, continue to reply.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Kali
2007-04-25 21:13:04 UTC
Permalink
In <***@mid.individual.net>, Rhonda Lea Kirk
***@databasix.com said:
: "Kali" <***@powder.keg> wrote in message
: news:f0oces$9lg$***@blackhelicopter.databasix.com
: > In <***@4ax.com>, miguel mjc101
: > @gmail.com said:
: >> Kali wrote:
: >>> Respondant said:
: >>>> miguel wrote:
: >>>>> Respondant wrote:
: >>>>>> miguel wrote:
: >>>>>>> Psick Pfreak Psycho Pstalker:
: >>>>>>>> miguel:
: >
: > [...]
: >
: >>>> Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage*
: >>>> from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny?
: >>>> Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should have written Rick
: >>>> the riot act over such an egregious offense, no? Or at least
: >>>> scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or
: >>>> some other such psycho-babble bullshit like that, no?
: >>
: >>>> Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
: >>
: >>> The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
: >>> themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
: >>> lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
: >>> outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
: >>> a-shit for some reason.
: >>
: >> You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
: >
: > Where did I answer a rhetorical question? What you've written
: > below betrays your assertion that the question was rhetorical.
: >
: >> According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
: >> whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
: >> be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
: >> objectified her. It was degrading. You're trying to minimize it for
: >> your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
: >>
: > Who really cares, huh? Besides you, I mean.
:
: And yet you, o uncaring one, continue to reply.

Expressing my opinion that the details of your affair with Rick
are not the business of Usenetters (despite the fact that you
most unwisely continue to reveal all the private details of it
here) is not to be construed as caring about the fact that your
lover groped your breast once in public when you were on holiday
together.

Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-25 21:16:49 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kali
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Kali
[...]
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage*
from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't
deny? Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should have
written Rick the riot act over such an egregious offense, no?
Or at least scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's
"boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit like
that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
Where did I answer a rhetorical question? What you've written
below betrays your assertion that the question was rhetorical.
Post by miguel
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a
friend whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that
can only be construed as a gesture of territoriality and
possessiveness. It objectified her. It was degrading. You're
trying to minimize it for your own stupid reasons by
characterizing it as mere touching.
Who really cares, huh? Besides you, I mean.
And yet you, o uncaring one, continue to reply.
Expressing my opinion that the details of your affair with Rick
are not the business of Usenetters (despite the fact that you
most unwisely continue to reveal all the private details of it
here) is not to be construed as caring about the fact that your
lover groped your breast once in public when you were on holiday
together.
<QUOTE>
Post by Kali
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Kali
Who really cares, huh? Besides you, I mean.
</QUOTE>

And yet, o uncaring one, you continue to reply.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Lionel
2007-04-26 01:23:26 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:38:52 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Kali
[...]
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage*
from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny?
Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should have written Rick
the riot act over such an egregious offense, no? Or at least
scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or
some other such psycho-babble bullshit like that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
Where did I answer a rhetorical question? What you've written
below betrays your assertion that the question was rhetorical.
Post by miguel
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a friend
whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that can only
be construed as a gesture of territoriality and possessiveness. It
objectified her. It was degrading. You're trying to minimize it for
your own stupid reasons by characterizing it as mere touching.
Who really cares, huh? Besides you, I mean.
And yet you, o uncaring one, continue to reply.
AUK was newgrouped for the express purpose of poking at loons,
Rodenta. You're a loon, therefore you're being poked.
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
. | ,. w ,
\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-26 01:29:46 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:38:52 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Kali
[...]
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage*
from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't
deny? Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should have
written Rick the riot act over such an egregious offense, no?
Or at least scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's
"boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit like
that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
Where did I answer a rhetorical question? What you've written
below betrays your assertion that the question was rhetorical.
Post by miguel
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a
friend whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that
can only be construed as a gesture of territoriality and
possessiveness. It objectified her. It was degrading. You're
trying to minimize it for your own stupid reasons by
characterizing it as mere touching.
Who really cares, huh? Besides you, I mean.
And yet you, o uncaring one, continue to reply.
AUK was newgrouped for the express purpose of poking at loons,
Rodenta. You're a loon, therefore you're being poked.
Why would someone post about something she doesn't care about?

That's the question, Lionel.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Lionel
2007-04-26 02:06:55 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:29:46 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:38:52 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Kali
[...]
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage*
from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't
deny? Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should have
written Rick the riot act over such an egregious offense, no?
Or at least scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's
"boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit like
that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
Where did I answer a rhetorical question? What you've written
below betrays your assertion that the question was rhetorical.
Post by miguel
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a
friend whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way that
can only be construed as a gesture of territoriality and
possessiveness. It objectified her. It was degrading. You're
trying to minimize it for your own stupid reasons by
characterizing it as mere touching.
Who really cares, huh? Besides you, I mean.
And yet you, o uncaring one, continue to reply.
AUK was newgrouped for the express purpose of poking at loons,
Rodenta. You're a loon, therefore you're being poked.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Why would someone post about something she doesn't care about?
That's the question, Lionel.
The answer's right there in front of you, Bunny Boiler.
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
. | ,. w ,
\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
---^----^---------------------------------------------------------------
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-26 02:12:00 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:29:46 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:38:52 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Kali
[...]
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the
*outrage* from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick
doesn't deny? Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should
have written Rick the riot act over such an egregious offense,
no?
Or at least scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's
"boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit like
that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
Where did I answer a rhetorical question? What you've written
below betrays your assertion that the question was rhetorical.
Post by miguel
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a
friend whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way
that can only be construed as a gesture of territoriality and
possessiveness. It objectified her. It was degrading. You're
trying to minimize it for your own stupid reasons by
characterizing it as mere touching.
Who really cares, huh? Besides you, I mean.
And yet you, o uncaring one, continue to reply.
AUK was newgrouped for the express purpose of poking at loons,
Rodenta. You're a loon, therefore you're being poked.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Why would someone post about something she doesn't care about?
That's the question, Lionel.
The answer's right there in front of you, Bunny Boiler.
auk was newgrouped for the express purpose of /examining/ kooks, Lionel.

More recently, however, the purpose has been perverted to /create/ kooks
by, and for the purpose of, recreational gang bullying.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Lionel
2007-04-26 02:40:50 UTC
Permalink
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:12:00 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:29:46 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:38:52 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Kali
[...]
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the
*outrage* from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick
doesn't deny? Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should
have written Rick the riot act over such an egregious offense,
no?
Or at least scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's
"boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit like
that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
Where did I answer a rhetorical question? What you've written
below betrays your assertion that the question was rhetorical.
Post by miguel
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a
friend whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way
that can only be construed as a gesture of territoriality and
possessiveness. It objectified her. It was degrading. You're
trying to minimize it for your own stupid reasons by
characterizing it as mere touching.
Who really cares, huh? Besides you, I mean.
And yet you, o uncaring one, continue to reply.
AUK was newgrouped for the express purpose of poking at loons,
Rodenta. You're a loon, therefore you're being poked.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Why would someone post about something she doesn't care about?
That's the question, Lionel.
The answer's right there in front of you, Bunny Boiler.
auk was newgrouped for the express purpose of /examining/ kooks, Lionel.
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As per discussion on alt.config alt.usenet.kooks has been created.
Usenet has more of its share of conspiracy theorists and kooks
and this group has been created for the discussion of these people.
Examples of their work will be posted here and it will be a meeting
place for kook-hunters to gather and swap stories and keep
one another up to date as to where the new budding kooks can
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line, kooks can be lured into crossposting to alt.usenet.kooks.
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In other words, Rodenta, you're a clue-proof kook.
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
More recently, however, the purpose has been perverted to /create/ kooks
by, and for the purpose of, recreational gang bullying.
You're a kook, & we're discussing you. Moreover, you have indeed been
lured into crossposting to alt.usenet.kooks, & you're too kooky to
spit out the hook.

And as for your demented claim that there's anything new about
Kookologists poking at kooks, feel free to look at the AUK posts in
which Craig Dickson - the person who created AUK - & many others from
the same era do exactly that:
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&as_ugroup=alt.usenet.kooks&as_uauthors=crd%40netcom.com>

And the final piece de resistance, the original FAQ for AUK - note
especially the part about suckering one's kook into to posting to AUK
for the amusement of the other Kookologists - just as we're doing to
you. The only difference is that you're so fucking kooky that you
actually dived into AUK of your own accord.

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The alt.usenet.kooks FAQ


Last revised: 17 June 1994
by Craig Dickson (***@netcom.com)


To locate any article within this document, search for its table of
contents
label prefixed with a tilde. For example, to locate Frequently Asked
Question
3, search for "~(3)".


~(Contents)

Frequently Asked Questions

(1) What's this newsgroup for?
(2) Who is a net.kook?
(3) Can you give me a few examples?
(4) How do I present a kook on this group?
(5) What are the Kook of the Month (KotM) awards?
(6) Is alt.usenet.kooks archived anywhere?
(7) Where can I find out more about net.kooks?

Appendices

(A) The Kook of the Month awards
(B) Past Kook of the Month award winners
(C) Selected quotes from net.kooks of the past and present
(D) Changes

FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS

~(1) What's this newsgroup for?

alt.usenet.kooks is a newsgroup for the discovery and discussion of
kooks
who post to Usenet. These people are known technically as net.kooks.


~(2) Who is a net.kook?

Anyone who posts uniquely strange, preferably incomprehensible
articles, or
who manifests a persistent, extreme, and somewhat bizarre obsession,
might
be a net.kook. Most of the people described as "loons" in David
DeLaney's
net.legends FAQ are net.kooks; the reader is referred to that document
for
additional insight on this question.

It is important to note the subtle distinction between a net.kook, a
net.cretin, and a clueless newbie. The newbie, one hopes, can acquire
a
clue on the installment plan even if he can't afford to buy one for
cash;
the cretin is merely stupid and/or irritating; but a true net.kook has
a
special fascination derived from his or her utter ineffability. Their
behavior is irrational, if not downright weird, but they are seldom
merely
boring.

It is not considered appropriate to nominate clueless newbies as
net.kooks.
It is acceptable to nominate net.cretins, or simply to present them,
without
nomination, for whatever minor amusement value they may have; but the
real
focus here is on net.kooks in all their raging, indomitable glory.

Important Disclaimer: the fact that someone has been proclaimed a
net.kook
does not imply any psychological diagnosis in and of itself. A
net.kook
may or may not be clinically insane; that is not the concern of the
a.u.k
audience.


~(3) Can you give me a few examples?

I'd rather not, but it may help to clarify things... The person who
posted
a handful of meaningless, ill-formed newgroups on 5/21/94 was a
clueless
newbie. The person who hung around alt.religion.kibology during April
and
May 1994, constantly posting boilerplate "warning" messages telling
people
that a.r.k messages were intentionally meaningless, was a net.cretin.
The
people who post demented "scientific" theories and seem invulnerable
to
criticism are moderate net.kooks. The sort of person who constantly
raves
about the conspiracy against it is an extreme net.kook, especially if
it
automatically assumes that anyone who questions its world-view is an
agent
of the conspirators.


~(4) How do I present a kook on this group?

The preferred technique is to get the suspected kook to start posting
to
a.u.k so that we can all see it in action first-hand. You can do this
by
posting followups to the suspect's weirder messages, with your
followups
nonchalantly cross-posted to a.u.k. If the suspect responds to your
messages
without editing the Newsgroups line, you've achieved your goal.

Another acceptable method is to repost, complete and unedited, one or
two
of the suspected kook's recent postings. If you do this, please
provide
a brief intro at the top of the message indicating who this person is,
what
group you found the message on, and why you think the rest of us will
find
it interesting.

You should be aware that if you try this with some perfectly
reasonable
posting, you may be suspected of being a net.kook yourself. It is also
considered extremely lame to nominate someone as a kook simply because
you
have lost, or at least failed to win, a debate with it; that someone
fails
to perceive the self-evident, unassailable wisdom of your viewpoint
does
not, in and of itself, constitute kookery.


~(5) What are the Kook of the Month (KotM) awards?

Every month special recognition is given to one person whose kookery
is
judged to have surpassed all others. This is the Kook of the Month
Award,
voted (somewhat informally) by the a.u.k audience. See Appendix A of
this
document for the full story on this great honor.


~(6) Is alt.usenet.kooks archived anywhere?

Not to my knowledge. A list of Kook of the Month winners is contained
in
Appendix B of this document; sample postings from each awardee and
each of
the current month's nominees are stored at
ftp://ftp.netcom.com:/pub/crd.
The current version of this FAQ and David DeLaney's net.legends FAQ
are also
available there.


~(7) Where can I find out more about net.kooks?

Several mini-FAQs on classic kooks of the past and present (along with
several
non-kooky legendary netters) are available on the World Wide Web in
the
alt.folklore.urban archives. The URL for the net.legends subdirectory
is
gopher://dixie.aiss.uiuc.edu:6969/11/urban.legends/net.legends. This
material
is also available for anon-ftp at cathouse.org.


APPENDICES

~(A) The Kook of the Month awards

Every month since April 1994, the readers of alt.usenet.kooks have
nominated
and voted for a Kook of the Month. This award is intended to recognize
great
achievements in the field of kookery, although (DISCLAIMER) no
psychological
diagnosis is intended or implied by the award; the fact that a group
of
net.posters think that someone's postings are bizarre does not imply
that
that person is mentally disturbed in a clinical sense.

Aside from a few limitations given below, anyone can nominate anyone
else for
Kook of the Month. (You cannot nominate or vote for yourself because
the award
is not intended as an ego trip.) To be accepted, the nomination must
be
seconded by another person, and at least one unedited sample posting
from the
nominee must be posted to a.u.k. The only exception to these
requirements is
"None of the Above", which is always on the ballot and wins by default
if no
nominee receives at least 50% of the votes cast. Votes are collected
all
through the month, and at the end of the month I tally up the results
and
formally declare a Kook of the Month. Votes are cast by mailing them
to
***@netcom.com or posting them to a.u.k. The latter method is
slightly risky,
because it's always possible that I might miss your posting.

To keep things from spiraling out of control, each a.u.k poster is
limited
to one nomination per month. If you find a better candidate
subsequently,
you may withdraw your prior nomination in order to nominate the other
one.
This change of nomination may be done only once per month; the
reasoning
again being to keep the situation from becoming too confused.

Eligibility limitations:
No one is eligible for Kook of the Month who
(1a) has not posted any Usenet articles during the current
month;
(1b) is not well-known on at least one Usenet newsgroup;
(1c) is a previous KotM winner;
(1d) was nominated and seconded for KotM in the previous
month.

No one may nominate or vote for Kook of the Month who
(2a) is a previous KotM winner.

The reasoning behind (1a) and (1b) are pretty obvious, If you're
wondering
about (1c) and (1d), well, basically, the idea is that we don't want a
small
group of well-known kooks to keep winning the award over and over, or
to
be a constant presence in the nominations. So we limit eligibility:
you
can only win once, and you can't be nominated two months in a row.

(2a) is intended to prevent known kooks from subverting the awards
process.

To be completely clear, I should point out that *anyone* is welcome to
bring kooks to the attention of the a.u.k audience. It is only in the
formal nomination and voting that past KotM's are disallowed.

A question has also been raised as to the eligibility of net.kooks who
post
their kooky material only to regional newsgroups with limited
propagation.
The answer is, no, but if you can get them out into the open, then
yes. The
technique of engaging them in public debate crossposted between their
regional group and worldwide groups can do this quite nicely. In such
cases,
it is recommended that the thread be crossposted to a.u.k and one or
two
relevant groups (e.g., sci.skeptic for psychics, alt.alien.visitors
for UFO
contactees, alt.politics.homosexuality for gay-bashers), for two
reasons:
(a) to ensure that we can see the show, and (b) to maximize the
possibility
of a debate that lasts for at least a few days to give us a more
complete
picture of the nominee's personality.


~(B) Past Kook of the Month award winners

April 1994 Mark Line (***@henson.cc.wwu.edu) rec.org.mensa
May 1994 Andrew W. Beckwith (***@andrew.cmu.edu) alt.flame


~(C) Selected quotes from net.kooks of the past and present

Abian, Alexander (sci.astro): "I am almost convinced that in our Milky
Way
galaxy, at least within several billion billion miles, there is no
Planet
populated by homosapiens."
Beckwith, Andrew W. [KotM 5/94] (a.u.k): "I did not self spank myself
off!"
(a.u.k): "It is a substainable annoyance."
Detweiler, L. (cypherpunks list): "I have noticed an interesting
overlap
between radical libertarians, crypto-anarchists, psychopunks, and
people
who promote sodomy."
Line, Mark [KotM 4/94] (rec.org.mensa): "We will not allow yourselves
to be
bludgeoned!"
McElwaine, Robert E. (from .sig): "UN-altered REPRODUCTION and
DISSEMINATION
of this IMPORTANT information is ENCOURAGED!"
(comp.misc) "The UPC bar-codes are probably the most blatant form of
the
"MARK OF THE BEA$T" so far, with the "NUMBER OF THE BEA$T", 666,
ALREADY
CODED INTO THEM."
Stollman, Gary (alt.alien.visitors): "I was FORCED into ALL those
mental
hospitals by this government, which I am going to SUE TO HIGH
HEAVEN, and
by enemies who can read minds, etc..."


~(D) Changes

17 Jun 1994: "None of the Above" added to the KotM ballot.
--
Craig Dickson (***@netcom.com) a.k.a. "*ibo": a collector of
net.butterflies.
Keeper, alt.usenet.kooks FAQ. Coordinator, Kook of the Month Awards
(a.u.k).
KotM archives, a.u.k FAQ, and net.legends FAQ:
ftp://ftp.netcom.com:/pub/crd.
"This may make me a megalomaniac putz": Roger "Fouck you all" Bryner
6/12/94.
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Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-26 03:42:34 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 22:12:00 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 21:29:46 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Lionel
On Wed, 25 Apr 2007 16:38:52 -0400, "Rhonda Lea Kirk"
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Post by Kali
[...]
Post by miguel
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the
*outrage* from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that
Rick doesn't deny? Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink
should have written Rick the riot act over such an egregious
offense, no?
Or at least scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's
"boundaries" or some other such psycho-babble bullshit like
that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition? Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough
give- a-shit for some reason.
You're pretty good at answering rhetorical questions after all, Kali.
Where did I answer a rhetorical question? What you've written
below betrays your assertion that the question was rhetorical.
Post by miguel
According to Rhonda he grabbed her breast in the presence of a
friend whom they had recently just met in meatspace, in a way
that can only be construed as a gesture of territoriality and
possessiveness. It objectified her. It was degrading. You're
trying to minimize it for your own stupid reasons by
characterizing it as mere touching.
Who really cares, huh? Besides you, I mean.
And yet you, o uncaring one, continue to reply.
AUK was newgrouped for the express purpose of poking at loons,
Rodenta. You're a loon, therefore you're being poked.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
Why would someone post about something she doesn't care about?
That's the question, Lionel.
The answer's right there in front of you, Bunny Boiler.
auk was newgrouped for the express purpose of /examining/ kooks, Lionel.
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As per discussion on alt.config alt.usenet.kooks has been created.
Usenet has more of its share of conspiracy theorists and kooks
and this group has been created for the discussion of these people.
Examples of their work will be posted here and it will be a meeting
place for kook-hunters to gather and swap stories and keep
one another up to date as to where the new budding kooks can
be found. It is hoped that through the careful use of the Followup
line, kooks can be lured into crossposting to alt.usenet.kooks.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Where's the part about poking people into insensibility, Lionel?
Post by Lionel
As I have said, this has been discussed in alt.config and there is
alot of interest in this group. Sys-admins kindly create this
group and feel free to e-mail me with any questions.
alt.usenet.kooks Discussion of the kooks on usenet.
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In other words, Rodenta, you're a clue-proof kook.
So are you, Lionel.

That's why nowadays, non-aukers call aukers "kookologistkooks."
Post by Lionel
Post by Rhonda Lea Kirk
More recently, however, the purpose has been perverted to /create/
kooks by, and for the purpose of, recreational gang bullying.
You're a kook, & we're discussing you. Moreover, you have indeed been
lured into crossposting to alt.usenet.kooks, & you're too kooky to
spit out the hook.
Lured into crossposting? <laughing> PPOR.
Post by Lionel
And as for your demented claim that there's anything new about
Kookologists poking at kooks,
Ah, but that's not what I've been claiming.

You twist everything out of shape, Lionel. It could drive anyone over
the edge if they didn't have the time and patience to deal with your
distortion of reality.
Post by Lionel
feel free to look at the AUK posts in
which Craig Dickson - the person who created AUK - & many others from
<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_q=&as_ugroup=alt.usenet.kooks&as_uauthors=crd%40netcom.com>
They did not create kooks. They found kooks.

There's a difference.

And they didn't engage in kooky behavior in the name of kookology
either.

Some kookologists are still patient enough to let the kooks unfold for
them, Lionel. But not many.

Certainly not you. You resort to using all the kooky tactics that early
kookologists and early netizens abhored.
Post by Lionel
And the final piece de resistance, the original FAQ for AUK - note
especially the part about suckering one's kook into to posting to AUK
for the amusement of the other Kookologists - just as we're doing to
you. The only difference is that you're so fucking kooky that you
actually dived into AUK of your own accord.
You haven't suckered me into posting into auk, Lionel, so don't take
credit where it isn't due. I can dig out posts calling me a kookologist
and a troll, although I denied it. I can also show you third-party
references to my cluefulness.

The change came at the end of January/beginning of February, because I
chose to go against the party line. I would not change that, just in
case you were wondering.

If you are representative of the current crop of kookologists, I'm happy
to be a kook.

<snipped old faq-Message-ID: <***@netcom.com>>
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-25 17:57:16 UTC
Permalink
Post by Kali
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by Respondant
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Groups restored
Are you trying to make a statement, crasston?
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
And: 2) You're asking him to prove something that he can't
possibly prove without outing personal email/IRC (or
whatever it was).
All he as to do is ask for permission.
My slip is showing, madam.
Corrected.
But he won't do that, because
that would cause his plausible deniability to vanish.
Translation: "If he does that then it justifies what the
bunny-boiler did."
Your logic circuits are failing.
Corrected.
Post by miguel
All you have to do is ask permission. If you receive
permission, then the two situations are not comparable.
This is not to concede that there is anything unethical about
posting one's own email.
What in particular do you not understand about the word no, crasston?
I will not stoop to the level of a psychotic nutjob who is hell
bent on exacting revenge because she was spurned.
It's a bit late for you to ever claim any moral highground on
usenet, psycho.
But asking for permission to prove your tacit but necessary
premise that some suicidal gesture made your phone call to the
police reasonable is not stooping to any level whatsoever.
The only reasonable conclusion anybody can draw is that you are
aware there is no evidence of such gesture so you're hiding
behind your ridiculous claim of moral high ground.
Unlike you and the bunny-boiler, I have principles, and
principles override everything in my world view except survival
instinct. In other words, I refuse to stoop to her level or to
yours, thus you are free to draw any conclusion you like,
crasston.
If you don't like that, tough titties for you.
HTH
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email
from you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a
suicidal gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized
and you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal
gesture.
How about it, psycho?
I'm still trying to wrap my head around Rick avowing he has
"principles" and a "survival instinct" after having tacitly
admitted to grabbing Rhonda's breast in public, (in front of a
stranger, no less) and continuing to smoke cigarettes while being
asthmatic.
HTH ROFL
Hard to figure, you're damn right.
Know what's even harder for me to figure? Where's the *outrage*
from AUK over the breast-grabbing incident that Rick doesn't deny?
Surely Kali or some other armchair shrink should have written Rick
the riot act over such an egregious offense, no? Or at least
scolded him in public for not respecting Rhonda's "boundaries" or
some other such psycho-babble bullshit like that, no?
Nevermind. That was all rhetorical.
The question is, why would anyone is AUK care to involve
themselves in such a petty inquisition?
I don't know.

Why did you?
Post by Kali
Two fifty-ish year-old
lovers on vacation and he touched her breast. Do you feel
outraged about that, Respondant? I can't muster up enough give-
a-shit for some reason.
Kali
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Kali
2007-04-25 05:59:48 UTC
Permalink
In <***@comcast.com>, Respondant
***@noemail.none said:
: miguel wrote:

Oops, I snipped something.

: > How about it, psycho?
:
: I'm still trying to wrap my head
:
: HTH ROFL

Hahahaha.

Kali
--
"If we knew what it was we were doing, it would not be called
research, would it?"
- Albert Einstein
miguel
2007-04-25 14:04:23 UTC
Permalink
Post by miguel
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
Since principle is a truly alien concept to you, crasston, it is not
unsurprising that you believe the principle of my refusing to stoop
to her level remains intact by the mere granting of her permission
for me to stoop to her level. Sucks to be you, hey.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about her and
call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to publish
proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
Since when have I been answerable to you over my principles, fuckchop?
Since you started waving them around as justification for your
continued lying and shitslinging. In other words: you brought them up,
wheezer.
Bad luck, BOO HOO for you.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about Rhonda
Lea and call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to
publish proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
Rhonda Lea Kirk
2007-04-25 14:13:37 UTC
Permalink
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email
from you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a
suicidal gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized
and you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal
gesture.
Since principle is a truly alien concept to you, crasston, it is
not unsurprising that you believe the principle of my refusing to
stoop to her level remains intact by the mere granting of her
permission for me to stoop to her level. Sucks to be you, hey.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about her and
call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to
publish proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
Since when have I been answerable to you over my principles,
fuckchop?
Since you started waving them around as justification for your
continued lying and shitslinging. In other words: you brought them up,
wheezer.
Bad luck, BOO HOO for you.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about Rhonda
Lea and call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to
publish proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
Not to worry. We'll get a good look at it when the "Bunny Boiler FAQ" is
published...

Message-ID: <f0mpdh$bvc$***@blackhelicopter.databasix.com>

"Given the way Rodenta keeps on spinning in circles &
spewing the same rubbish, the traditional solution is to put together
a FAQ. I think the Bunny Boiler is just about due for one."

...because my matching FAQ will set forth his moral code in his own
words.
--
Rhonda Lea Kirk

Some are tempted to think of life in cyberspace as insignificant,
as escape or meaningless diversion. It is not. Our experiences there
are serious play. We belittle them at our risk. Sherry Turkle
Lionel
2007-04-25 14:26:43 UTC
Permalink
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
Since principle is a truly alien concept to you, crasston, it is not
unsurprising that you believe the principle of my refusing to stoop
to her level remains intact by the mere granting of her permission
for me to stoop to her level. Sucks to be you, hey.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about her and
call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to publish
proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
Since when have I been answerable to you over my principles, fuckchop?
Since you started waving them around as justification for your
continued lying and shitslinging. In other words: you brought them up,
wheezer.
Bad luck, BOO HOO for you.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about Rhonda
Lea and call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to
publish proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
This is a flame group, fuckchops - we're *supposed* to call people
outrageous names here. Haven't you been catching up with enough
ambulances lately to afford a fucking clue?
If someone doesn't want to be called names, they shouldn't post to
AUK, you frothing nutbag.
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
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\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
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miguel
2007-04-25 15:24:39 UTC
Permalink
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
Since principle is a truly alien concept to you, crasston, it is not
unsurprising that you believe the principle of my refusing to stoop
to her level remains intact by the mere granting of her permission
for me to stoop to her level. Sucks to be you, hey.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about her and
call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to publish
proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
Since when have I been answerable to you over my principles, fuckchop?
Since you started waving them around as justification for your
continued lying and shitslinging. In other words: you brought them up,
wheezer.
Bad luck, BOO HOO for you.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about Rhonda
Lea and call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to
publish proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
This is a flame group, fuckchops - we're *supposed* to call people
outrageous names here. Haven't you been catching up with enough
ambulances lately to afford a fucking clue?
If someone doesn't want to be called names, they shouldn't post to
AUK, you frothing nutbag.
It just seems so classless when doing it with a former lover. For
example, even though Sharon B and I had a torrid and all too public
romance and meltdown, you'll never catch me referring to her as a
buck-toothed, hillbilly fuckmonkey (NTTAWWI). I'll always remember
fondly the nights we spent under the stars at her trailer park lying
among the 30 or so broken down Dodge cars and trucks up on blocks.
Meat Plow
2007-04-25 16:22:28 UTC
Permalink
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
Since principle is a truly alien concept to you, crasston, it is not
unsurprising that you believe the principle of my refusing to stoop
to her level remains intact by the mere granting of her permission
for me to stoop to her level. Sucks to be you, hey.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about her and
call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to publish
proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
Since when have I been answerable to you over my principles, fuckchop?
Since you started waving them around as justification for your
continued lying and shitslinging. In other words: you brought them up,
wheezer.
Bad luck, BOO HOO for you.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about Rhonda
Lea and call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to
publish proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
This is a flame group, fuckchops - we're *supposed* to call people
outrageous names here. Haven't you been catching up with enough
ambulances lately to afford a fucking clue?
If someone doesn't want to be called names, they shouldn't post to
AUK, you frothing nutbag.
It just seems so classless when doing it with a former lover. For
example, even though Sharon B and I had a torrid and all too public
romance and meltdown, you'll never catch me referring to her as a
buck-toothed, hillbilly fuckmonkey (NTTAWWI). I'll always remember
fondly the nights we spent under the stars at her trailer park lying
among the 30 or so broken down Dodge cars and trucks up on blocks.
Don't you have a public defender case to attend to, attorney cranston?
--
#1 Offishul Ruiner of Usenet, March 2007
#1 Usenet Asshole, March 2007
#1 Bartlo Pset, March 13-24 2007
#10 Most hated Usenetizen of all time
Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, June 2004
COOSN-266-06-25794
miguel
2007-04-25 16:26:52 UTC
Permalink
Post by Meat Plow
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
Since principle is a truly alien concept to you, crasston, it is not
unsurprising that you believe the principle of my refusing to stoop
to her level remains intact by the mere granting of her permission
for me to stoop to her level. Sucks to be you, hey.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about her and
call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to publish
proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
Since when have I been answerable to you over my principles, fuckchop?
Since you started waving them around as justification for your
continued lying and shitslinging. In other words: you brought them up,
wheezer.
Bad luck, BOO HOO for you.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about Rhonda
Lea and call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to
publish proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
This is a flame group, fuckchops - we're *supposed* to call people
outrageous names here. Haven't you been catching up with enough
ambulances lately to afford a fucking clue?
If someone doesn't want to be called names, they shouldn't post to
AUK, you frothing nutbag.
It just seems so classless when doing it with a former lover. For
example, even though Sharon B and I had a torrid and all too public
romance and meltdown, you'll never catch me referring to her as a
buck-toothed, hillbilly fuckmonkey (NTTAWWI). I'll always remember
fondly the nights we spent under the stars at her trailer park lying
among the 30 or so broken down Dodge cars and trucks up on blocks.
Don't you have a public defender case to attend to, attorney cranston?
You are witless and dumb.
Meat Plow
2007-04-25 16:34:36 UTC
Permalink
Post by miguel
Post by Meat Plow
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
Since principle is a truly alien concept to you, crasston, it is not
unsurprising that you believe the principle of my refusing to stoop
to her level remains intact by the mere granting of her permission
for me to stoop to her level. Sucks to be you, hey.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about her and
call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to publish
proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
Since when have I been answerable to you over my principles, fuckchop?
Since you started waving them around as justification for your
continued lying and shitslinging. In other words: you brought them up,
wheezer.
Bad luck, BOO HOO for you.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about Rhonda
Lea and call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to
publish proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
This is a flame group, fuckchops - we're *supposed* to call people
outrageous names here. Haven't you been catching up with enough
ambulances lately to afford a fucking clue?
If someone doesn't want to be called names, they shouldn't post to
AUK, you frothing nutbag.
It just seems so classless when doing it with a former lover. For
example, even though Sharon B and I had a torrid and all too public
romance and meltdown, you'll never catch me referring to her as a
buck-toothed, hillbilly fuckmonkey (NTTAWWI). I'll always remember
fondly the nights we spent under the stars at her trailer park lying
among the 30 or so broken down Dodge cars and trucks up on blocks.
Don't you have a public defender case to attend to, attorney cranston?
You are witless and dumb.
Hence your speedy reply.

heh
--
#1 Offishul Ruiner of Usenet, March 2007
#1 Usenet Asshole, March 2007
#1 Bartlo Pset, March 13-24 2007
#10 Most hated Usenetizen of all time
Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, June 2004
COOSN-266-06-25794
miguel
2007-04-25 16:43:06 UTC
Permalink
Post by Meat Plow
Post by miguel
Post by Meat Plow
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
Since principle is a truly alien concept to you, crasston, it is not
unsurprising that you believe the principle of my refusing to stoop
to her level remains intact by the mere granting of her permission
for me to stoop to her level. Sucks to be you, hey.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about her and
call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to publish
proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
Since when have I been answerable to you over my principles, fuckchop?
Since you started waving them around as justification for your
continued lying and shitslinging. In other words: you brought them up,
wheezer.
Bad luck, BOO HOO for you.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about Rhonda
Lea and call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to
publish proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
This is a flame group, fuckchops - we're *supposed* to call people
outrageous names here. Haven't you been catching up with enough
ambulances lately to afford a fucking clue?
If someone doesn't want to be called names, they shouldn't post to
AUK, you frothing nutbag.
It just seems so classless when doing it with a former lover. For
example, even though Sharon B and I had a torrid and all too public
romance and meltdown, you'll never catch me referring to her as a
buck-toothed, hillbilly fuckmonkey (NTTAWWI). I'll always remember
fondly the nights we spent under the stars at her trailer park lying
among the 30 or so broken down Dodge cars and trucks up on blocks.
Don't you have a public defender case to attend to, attorney cranston?
You are witless and dumb.
Hence your speedy reply.
heh
You and Sharon can both clean the pee off your shoes, dumbarse.
Meat Plow
2007-04-25 18:01:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by miguel
Post by Meat Plow
Post by miguel
Post by Meat Plow
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
Since principle is a truly alien concept to you, crasston, it is not
unsurprising that you believe the principle of my refusing to stoop
to her level remains intact by the mere granting of her permission
for me to stoop to her level. Sucks to be you, hey.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about her and
call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to publish
proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
Since when have I been answerable to you over my principles, fuckchop?
Since you started waving them around as justification for your
continued lying and shitslinging. In other words: you brought them up,
wheezer.
Bad luck, BOO HOO for you.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about Rhonda
Lea and call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to
publish proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
This is a flame group, fuckchops - we're *supposed* to call people
outrageous names here. Haven't you been catching up with enough
ambulances lately to afford a fucking clue?
If someone doesn't want to be called names, they shouldn't post to
AUK, you frothing nutbag.
It just seems so classless when doing it with a former lover. For
example, even though Sharon B and I had a torrid and all too public
romance and meltdown, you'll never catch me referring to her as a
buck-toothed, hillbilly fuckmonkey (NTTAWWI). I'll always remember
fondly the nights we spent under the stars at her trailer park lying
among the 30 or so broken down Dodge cars and trucks up on blocks.
Don't you have a public defender case to attend to, attorney cranston?
You are witless and dumb.
Hence your speedy reply.
heh
You and Sharon can both clean the pee off your shoes, dumbarse.
You can clean the drool of your chin, dim-bulb.

:)
--
#1 Offishul Ruiner of Usenet, March 2007
#1 Usenet Asshole, March 2007
#1 Bartlo Pset, March 13-24 2007
#10 Most hated Usenetizen of all time
Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker, June 2004
COOSN-266-06-25794
Lionel
2007-04-26 00:27:17 UTC
Permalink
Post by miguel
Post by Lionel
Post by miguel
Post by miguel
Here, how about if I ask for you? Rhonda, if Rick has any email from
you dated March 23 that he believes is the equivalent of a suicidal
gesture, may he have permission to post it?
Now, if she says yes, how can that violate any rule against the
unauthorized posting of email to usenet?
She would be authorizing it.
Your principles <cough> would not be at risk of being sodomized and
you could make the case for the existence of a suicidal gesture.
Since principle is a truly alien concept to you, crasston, it is not
unsurprising that you believe the principle of my refusing to stoop
to her level remains intact by the mere granting of her permission
for me to stoop to her level. Sucks to be you, hey.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about her and
call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to publish
proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
Since when have I been answerable to you over my principles, fuckchop?
Since you started waving them around as justification for your
continued lying and shitslinging. In other words: you brought them up,
wheezer.
Bad luck, BOO HOO for you.
So, it's less of a violation of your principles to lie about Rhonda
Lea and call her outrageous names than it is to ask her permission to
publish proof of your claim? Some moral code you have there.
This is a flame group, fuckchops - we're *supposed* to call people
outrageous names here. Haven't you been catching up with enough
ambulances lately to afford a fucking clue?
If someone doesn't want to be called names, they shouldn't post to
AUK, you frothing nutbag.
It just seems so classless when doing it with a former lover.
No kidding. I'm surprised you're encouraging her to do so.
Post by miguel
For
example, even though Sharon B and I had a torrid and all too public
romance and meltdown, you'll never catch me referring to her as a
buck-toothed, hillbilly fuckmonkey (NTTAWWI). I'll always remember
fondly the nights we spent under the stars at her trailer park lying
among the 30 or so broken down Dodge cars and trucks up on blocks.
You /are/ a class-act, poodle-fucker. Sure hope you don't ever have
any ambitions towards any kind of public role in the legal profession,
or in public office.
--
W "Some people are alive only because it is illegal to kill them."
. | ,. w ,
\|/ \|/ Perna condita delenda est
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